No Agenda Episode 381, "Acquisition Malpractice" (2012-02-09)

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John C. Dvorak:
[in preview clip] What is this world coming to?
Jingle:
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry:
It's Thursday, February 9th, 2012. Time for your gitmonation media assassination. Episode 3-8-1.
Jingle:
This is No Agenda.
Adam Curry:
Spending my days with Leviathan here at Camp Mofo in the capital of the Drone Star State, in the morning, everybody, from Austin, Texas, I'm Adam Curry.
John C. Dvorak:
And plain and simple, from northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak.
Jingle:
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill, in the morning. [closing musical flourish]
Adam Curry:
Hey hey, stinger. Nice. Well, hey, John.
John C. Dvorak:
Hey, in the morning to you, Adam Curry, in the morning...
Adam Curry:
[laughs]
John C. Dvorak:
...to all ships at sea, boots on the ground and feet in the air!
Adam Curry:
You should try something new one of these days, on your "In the morning." In the morning to you, by the way. And then I'll jus--
John C. Dvorak:
In the morning to you, Adam Curry!
Adam Curry:
In-- [laughs]
John C. Dvorak:
[laughs]
Adam Curry:
In the morning to you, John C. Dvorak, and in the morning to all of our--
John C. Dvorak:
"Just try something new."
Adam Curry:
Yeah, you should try something new, it's always the same thing. But let me say in the morning to everybody at noadgendastream.com,
noagendachat.net there in the chat room.
John C. Dvorak:
This sounds familiar.
Adam Curry:
Yes, we've got all of our human resources lined up, charged up and ready to go.
John C. Dvorak:
And ready to go, this is what you say every time.
Adam Curry:
I know, that's--well, if you say something different, maybe I'll say something different, you know, we should mix--
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, really?
Adam Curry:
We should mix it up a bit.
John C. Dvorak:
Huh.
Adam Curry:
You know, go crazy. Hey, did you tweet? Because there's, like, no one listening.
John C. Dvorak:
Well, no one listened to my tweet, then. Did I push the button?
Adam Curry:
[laughs] Did you, did you, did you actually push the button? Let me see, we got 600 people. That's low.
John C. Dvorak:
That is low.
Adam Curry:
Well, it's a Thursday. Give people a chance. This is true.
John C. Dvorak:
That's right, people work for a living.
Adam Curry:
[laughs] Unlike us. [laughs] We don't work for a living. My goodness i'd almost do this show for free.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, it says right here, "noagendastream.com should be streaming the latest No Agenda."
Adam Curry:
Did you--
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, I see what I...
Adam Curry:
There you go.
John C. Dvorak:
...oh, I just thought, hey, oh.
Adam Curry:
Oh, you didn't press "go"?
John C. Dvorak:
No no, I got it here, I just put a hash tag in front of it, so if somebody clicks on it, they're not gonna really get--
Adam Curry:
[mock irritation] Ohhh!
John C. Dvorak:
Uhhh.
Adam Curry:
Oh, you didn't tweeter it right.
John C. Dvorak:
And people, "Ohh, I can't, it's too hard to cut and paste."
Adam Curry:
You tweeted it wrong, man. Hey, by the way, Mr. Back_Pedal-of-the-Century, I saw your tweet the other day. You're like, "Uhh, I've re-examined all the fractals, and I was wro--" yeah, of course you were wrong. Did I call this--the guy who never watches a single game at all during the entire year except for the Super Bowl.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
And I called it.
John C. Dvorak:
Just show you how stupid sports are. [chuckles]
Adam Curry:
[laughs] And I called it. I said, "Giants are gonna win." And then even after the show you said to me,
Adam Curry:
"By the way, man, you're wrong. I've got all the fractals all figured out."
John C. Dvorak:
[laughs] I did not!
Adam Curry:
That's exactly what you said!
John C. Dvorak:
This is not only a lie, but a very poor imitation of my voice.
Adam Curry:
[laughs] I'll give you the poor imitation, but you actually did-- you said before we hung up, you said, "By the way, you're wrong on that." Yes you did! Ohh! Ohh! You lie! You lie! You're a horrible man!
John C. Dvorak:
This is some sort of dream you had.
Adam Curry:
No, no, no! Oh! I can't believe you're doing this!
John C. Dvorak:
After the show we did a little deconstruction of the show and then we hung-- you went on your way. I don't remember talking about football.
Adam Curry:
Ahhhh! No, we didn't. You said, "Oh, by the way" before I was like, "Ok, I'm done." You said, "Oh, by the way, you're totally wrong on the Giants thing." That's exactly what you said. Not even on the air, but off the air the five minutes we talked privately, you still had to reiterate that I was gonna be wrong. Anyway, it doesn't matter. So what happened with your fractal theory? Where did that go wrong?
John C. Dvorak:
Here's what happened.
Adam Curry:
Because I subscribe to the fractal theory, and I was like, "Wow."
John C. Dvorak:
The fractal theory was fine except when I really started looking at it,
John C. Dvorak:
I had-- these fractals-- I had basically made them up. There weren't any real fractals here. For one thing, Eli Manning's got no relationship with his brother.
Adam Curry:
What? You had this whole-- you had this whole thing!
John C. Dvorak:
Wait a minute, let me give you the fractals. And I said that Brady needs to win four Super Bowls to match Joe Montana, but he's already won three and lost when Montana never lost once, so the fractal's broken right there. And the other thing is every-- this game was an exact fractal model of the last time the two teams played, with the Giants winning in the last minute.
John C. Dvorak:
So, it was just-- I was just wishful thinking I had created these fractals-- imaginary fractals, and I was convinced that that's the way the game would go, but I was wrong.
Adam Curry:
Ok, but well... the only-- okay, good, because I don't give a crap about football. I mean, you know I don't.
John C. Dvorak:
But you care about the fractals.
Adam Curry:
Yes, of course. If the fractal theory is broken, then we have a much bigger problem. So you just-- but apparently for some reason you made up the fractal.
John C. Dvorak:
I kinda pushed the limits on what... you know, on the whole thing.
Adam Curry:
Anyway, I'm glad I watched the game for a number of reasons.
John C. Dvorak:
(disgusted sigh)
Adam Curry:
Well, it was very important because we had a very important-- first of all, you were right about the viewership. It was a little lower than the 117, so if we had done the 117 million, the over/under-- the under would have won, because it was 111 I think.
John C. Dvorak:
Right.
Adam Curry:
The total number, which is bogus, which advertisers don't buy on that, but it doesn't matter, you know, "Oh, 168 million!
Adam Curry:
A trillion people are watching this telecast live!" You watch, you watch during the Grammies this week. It'll be, "A billion people are watching around the globe!" They always say that bull crap, and it's just not true. But it is very important, it is a very important moment for the President, to ah, mind-control everybody as we're all nice and sauced up and we'll go "ehhh who's that guy"
John C. Dvorak:
Which is a good time to send a message.
Adam Curry:
"Yeahh, let's send a message"
Adam Curry:
So, last year,
John C. Dvorak:
And you got a lot of grease. You're eating, it's sausages with a lotta grease and you're drinking a lot of alcohol--
Adam Curry:
Lotta high f--
John C. Dvorak:
--and you're just ready to, for the message.
Adam Curry:
Yeah. Lot of high-fructose corn syrup, coursing through your veins.
John C. Dvorak:
We should do this show after dinner.
Adam Curry:
[Laughs] When people are like "yeah man, that's everything they say is true."
John C. Dvorak:
[Laughs]
Adam Curry:
"I know. I know it's all right."
Umm.
So last year, I think they had Bill O'Reilly from the Fox News Network, who was, uhh, who, no-one really, a lot of were like "nah, didn't like that interview". So, the administration sure didn't.
Adam Curry:
So they got the calmest pussycat of all, Matt Lauer who I know. Who, on a very, very cold day, winters day in New York, actually hosted a few VH1 shows. This is how I know the guy. Um, and I hung out with him once at an airport. And he's just, he's just a, he's not a journalist. Anyway, so he gets the gig, to go speak with the President. Did you, see this particular interview, John, or were you--
John C. Dvorak:
No.
Adam Curry:
-- fast forward--
John C. Dvorak:
of course not.
Adam Curry:
OK. Um. Three short clips. Very interesting wordage. Words do matter.
Adam Curry:
Listen to what the President as Matt Lauer asks him about, of course, Israel and their imminent attack on Iran.
Clip (Matt Lauer):
Seems now the Israelis are signalling that they may act and conduct a strike inside Iran at their nuclear sites sooner than later. Do they have your full support for that raid?
Clip (Barack Obama):
I don't think that Israel has made a decision on what they need to do. I think they, like us, believe that Iran has to stand down on its nuclear weapons program.
Adam Curry:
Did you hear the, uh, the little word thing? Did you hear it there?
John C. Dvorak:
[Stammering]
Adam Curry:
Besides that? No he said, instead of, what he-- what he's trying to communicate is, I don't think Israel's made a decision about what they're going to do. But that's not what he says. He says something else. Listen again.
John C. Dvorak:
Play it again.
Clip (Barack Obama):
... think that Israel has made a decision on what they need to do. I...
Adam Curry:
"What they NEED to do."
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, right.
Adam Curry:
"They haven't made a decision on what they NEED to do."
John C. Dvorak:
What they're GONNA do. What they NEED to do.
Adam Curry:
What they need to do. I thought that-- words matter.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, you're right, every once in a while.
Adam Curry:
Words matter.
John C. Dvorak:
It's a good catch, good catch.
Adam Curry:
Now, now, um,
Adam Curry:
The uh, this was kind of funny. So, Matt Lauer tries to do a little human interest in this six minutes of interview. It's like, "are your kids, are they all jacked up about," ah, what's the quarterback? Tom Brady? Tom Brady, is that him?
John C. Dvorak:
Uh, yeah, Tom Brady and Eli Manning were the two (2) quarterbacks.
Adam Curry:
Yeah but Tom Brady's the guy who, ah, who's with,
John C. Dvorak:
He's got the model girlfriend.
Adam Curry:
The supermodel, right.
He says, "ohh, are the Obama girls all jacked up about him? Are they all hot and saucy?" You know, that's, yeah,
Adam Curry:
"Are the Obama women, are they like, are they like hot for him? Do they have posters on the wall?" This is how our President handles parenthood.
Clip (Barack Obama):
I'm going to look for a great game.
Clip (Matt Lauer):
What about the ladies in the Obama household. Do they feel about Tom Brady the same way ladies all around the country feel about this guy?
Clip (Barack Obama):
[Laughing] I think they know he's a good looking guy. There's no doubt about it.
Clip (Matt Lauer):
Is there pot, perhaps, a poster of Tom Brady somewhere in the East Wing?
Clip (Barack Obama):
No, they haven't, the girls, thirteen (13), ten (10), they're not quite at the age yet where they start, ah, putting up the pictures of guys, yet. Ah.
Clip (Matt Lauer):
Justin Bieber, maybe.
Clip (Barack Obama):
When that happens, I will, ah, I may, you know, call some executive privilege and say that that's not appropriate.
Clip (Matt Lauer):
[Laughing]
Adam Curry:
Why don't you just drone em, Obama?
John C. Dvorak:
What?
Adam Curry:
Yeah, "I may call some executive privilege"
John C. Dvorak:
For one thing, they're old enough to put up posters.
Adam Curry:
Yah!
John C. Dvorak:
And, ah, the second thing is, who's he kidding.
Adam Curry:
Yeah. But then he's like "[spluttering] if I see that, I may have to call some executive privilege". No, just drone your kids, dude. That's how, that's how
John C. Dvorak:
Don't need to drone them, just send in the mother-in-law
John C. Dvorak:
Who lives in the White House. We always forget that.
Adam Curry:
[Laughing] Well, I don't forget it. I'm like, I never want to be President if that's part of the deal.
John C. Dvorak:
[Laughing] It's the only time it's ever happened that I know of.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, and then you were absolutely spot on. You called this a couple of episodes ago, where you said the new campaign for Obama is "we're only half done, we're not there yet, we need to go for the second half, we need, ah, we need, you can't stop us now" and, ah, this was the real message that, ah, that the President communicated.
Clip (Matt Lauer):
Three years ago we sat for this interview on Super Bowl Sunday. You had been President for just ten days.
Clip (Barack Obama):
Right.
Clip (Matt Lauer):
And we--
Adam Curry:
And by the way, they're showing B-roll of the interview from three years ago. He's wearing the exact same shirt. And it's a very distinct shirt, because it has little, ah, you know, it's like a checked shirt. The exact same shirt! Like the guy only has one football shirt or something.
John C. Dvorak:
[Laughing] It's his football shirt!
Adam Curry:
Really weird.
John C. Dvorak:
His lucky football shirt.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, but it's not even a good looking shirt. It's like, it just says "I'm a nerd."
Adam Curry:
Anyway.
It's the-- it's just interesting that it was the exact same shirt. I mean, if I was watching that there, I'd say, "Hey by the way, dude, don't you have any other wardrobe? That's three years ago, it's the same stinky shirt."
Clip (Matt Lauer):
--talked about the state of the economy which was in dire straits. And you said this to me. Quote, "if I don't have this done in three years then it's going to be a one term proposition." You got good news on Friday in terms of jobs, the unemployment rate went down to eight point three percent [8.3%].
Adam Curry:
Baaa.
Clip (Matt Lauer):
But I think if you go onto the street and you ask average Americans, "is the recovery done?", overwhelmingly they will tell you it is not.
Clip (Barack Obama):
Right.
Clip (Matt Lauer):
So do you deserve a second term?
Adam Curry:
Deserve.
Clip (Barack Obama):
I deserve a second term--
Adam Curry:
Deserve.
Clip (Barack Obama):
--But we're not done. Uh. Look. When you and I sat down, we were losing seven hundred and fifty thousand (750,000) jobs a month. In fact, we found out just a few days before we sat down that we had lost that month, seven hundred and fifty thousand (750,000) jobs. Now we're creating two hundred and fifty thousand (250,000). We created three point seven million (3,700,000) jobs over the last twenty three months.
John C. Dvorak:
Bull crap.
Adam Curry:
yeah.
Clip (Barack Obama):
We've created the most jobs since two thousand and five. The most manufacturing jobs
Adam Curry:
And by the way, ah, wasn't it saved or created?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, they dropped that meme apparently.
Adam Curry:
What happened to all that? Saved or created, now it's just created not even saved.
Clip (Barack Obama):
[Clip continues] 1990, but we're not finished
Adam Curry:
[Adam interjects] We're not finished !
Clip (Barack Obama):
[Clip continues] We've got to not only boost up American manufacturing, so that not just the auto industry, but all American manufacturing is building again, and selling overseas. We've got to make sure that we're pushing American energy and that includes not just oil & gas, but clean energy. We've got to make sure that the skills of the American workers are the best in the world ..
Adam Curry:
[Chuckles]
Clip (Barack Obama):
[Clip continues] .. and we're making progress on that front. And we've got to return to old fashioned American values.
Adam Curry:
[Clip paused] Now before he says this. So first of all, you don't deserve a second term in the United States. You can get elected, and you can be asked. You don't deserve it, there's no deserving. I'm sorry. I find that, personally, I find that to be offensive. I deserve this! [Adam bangs desk] I deserve it! Look what I've done. And now John, what would you say are the old fashioned American values?
Adam Curry:
I mean, this is not an ageist thing, but I think that I can only go back so far. You go back further.
John C. Dvorak:
[Jokingly] I go back to the turn of the previous century!
Adam Curry:
What are you. What are the ..
John C. Dvorak:
[John interjects] Just getting by. Oh no wait, that's the new ..
Adam Curry:
That's the American dream. I'm talking about he American values.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, American values.
Adam Curry:
And this is a meme that is continuing.
John C. Dvorak:
Honesty. Hard work gets you ahead, you can make as much money as you want in this country. There's nothing holding you back
Clip (Barack Obama):
[Clip continues] Everybody getting a fair shot, everybody doing their fair share, Everybody playing by the same rules
Adam Curry:
There you go. It's "everybody getting a fair shot, everybody doing their fair share, and everybody playing by the same rules."
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah ! Sound like it's Joseph Stalin!
Adam Curry:
Yeah. This is not American values! Fair shot ? Ok I'll give you that one. Everybody get their fair, but it's not like .. Hey! Hey you!
Jingle:
Hey Citizen !
Adam Curry:
It's your shot. Okay? Make it count. Everyone does their fair share? I don't know. It just doesn't sound to me-
John C. Dvorak:
Fair share thing's bugged me.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, it doesn't sound like
John C. Dvorak:
Who's? By who's standards? Who is saying what a fair share is? The government.
Adam Curry:
Well let's listen to it again.
Clip (Barack Obama):
Fair shot. Everybody doing their fair share. Everybody playing by the same rules, so that means for example regulations to make sure that Wall Street is following the same rules that Main Street is doing, but we've made progress
John C. Dvorak:
[Interjects] Rules for Wall street aren't the same as the rules for Main Street. They have rules against crossing the red light.
Adam Curry:
[Laughs]
John C. Dvorak:
What's that gotta do with Wall Street? What are they gonna put a rule in for Wall Street ..
John C. Dvorak:
.. that you can't, you know, run a red light ?
Adam Curry:
You can't cross the ..
John C. Dvorak:
It has nothing to do with Wall Street. Why would they have a rule like that ? How would they have the same rules. It doesn't make any sense.
Adam Curry:
I think you pointed it out exactly If you wanna cross Wall Street on a red light, that's illegal, and if you wanna cross Main Street on a red light, that's also illegal. Those are the only rules that are similar. The whole thing was very bothersome, and of course, a total setup with Clint Eastwood with his half time in America.
Adam Curry:
I mean, it couldn't, you pointed out specifically the commercial where you have the guy with his big afro, and they cut off half the hair like 'oh this is no good, you don't wanna have him walking around with half an afro!'
[Chuckles]
Although by the way, I think that is kind of a cool look.
John C. Dvorak:
It was very cool. Yeah, they should good with that.
Adam Curry:
I think Nicki Minaj should try that out. I thought it was kind of cool. So then they employ Clint Eastwood, to do, and I only took half of the commercial, it was so long.
Clip (Clint Eastwood):
It's half time
John C. Dvorak:
Half time !
Clip (Clint Eastwood):
Both teams are in their locker room discussing what they can do to win this game in the second half. [Music] It's half time in America too.
Adam Curry:
Arrrrr! I mean isn't that a clear analogy to the halftime for the Obama reign?
John C. Dvorak:
I think Clint Eastwood was suckered into this commercial because he is a Republican libertarian, and I don't think he knew that he, what he was doing. I think he did it cause he thought it was like, he probably, as the meta, he probably thought this was a cool idea and he bought into it.
John C. Dvorak:
But he, he doesn't, since he doesn't listen to our show,
Adam Curry:
[chuckle] How do you know?
John C. Dvorak:
he doesn't realise that there is a meme underway, this half, uh, done meme, that Obama's pushing, or Obama's people are pushing, and he doesn't know that even it exists. I'd say most people don't know it exists.
Adam Curry:
Wow.
John C. Dvorak:
And so he got suckered into doing this idiotic commercial, for charity or something. That's where the money is.
Adam Curry:
I think the -- you know, he looked at the original script and went like, [husky voice] "What is this half-ro? I don't understand the half-ro. Let's just say half time."
'Cause that would have been better.
John C. Dvorak:
[Chuckling] Half-ro.
Adam Curry:
[Husky voice] It's half-ro in America. [Laughs]
That's what we're going to call it. Half-ro. It's kinda racist though. But I didn't come up with the whole commercial though. It's a halfro, in that commercial, right?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, or something, yeah or it's just a haircut. I don't remember.
Adam Curry:
Mmmm...
John C. Dvorak:
That was weeks and weeks ago. But it was idiotic.
Adam Curry:
So this whole half-time in America, we can't stop now. We can't change course. Never change a winning team. Everyone gets their fair shot. Do their fair share, and play by the same rules.
John C. Dvorak:
[Laughing]
Adam Curry:
[Laughing]
John C. Dvorak:
[Laughing]
Adam Curry:
[Chuckle] Why do you laugh?
John C. Dvorak:
Cause it's -- the way you roll it out, it's actually quite funny.
Adam Curry:
[Laughing] Well but it's the same words. It's just saying it a little differently. It's not all that much difference. Anyhoo.
John C. Dvorak:
Well I thought the, uh, overall it was, uh, you know I actually DVR-ed the game and spedwatched it, going past the commercials.
Adam Curry:
Yeah I know, I heard you do that.
John C. Dvorak:
I've decided that this a bull crap scam that's been played on the public.
John C. Dvorak:
"Ohh, you've gotta watch the Super Bowl because the commercials are so great". So people actually tell you that "Oh yes, I sat down and watched all the commercials so I could talk about them around the water cooler." Well it turns out there's nothing to talk about, A, and B, how do you get suckered, believe me, suckered into watching commercials per se.
Adam Curry:
[Laughing] It's beautiful.
John C. Dvorak:
It's idiotic! So I decided screw it, I'm not going to watch any of the Super Bowl commercials.
John C. Dvorak:
And I did catch a couple of the-- while going fast forward, I saw a couple of compelling commercials I had to watch.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, you don't have to mention them. I don't care.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, well the one with the flying saucers.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, but you mentioned them all on the Horowitz show. I heard that. I heard it all.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, well I only -- all? Two. I saw two.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
Anyways, so, ah
Adam Curry:
So you got suckered. You got suckered into it too.
John C. Dvorak:
So we're done. We're done. We're done, we're done, we're done with the Super Bowl. Cause I think the real, the breaking, the news they were playing everywhere, everywhere, you turn! Every news, on every single network,
John C. Dvorak:
played this over and over and over again. Right? You know what I'm talking about.
Adam Curry:
Syria?
John C. Dvorak:
No.
Adam Curry:
Oh, I'm sorry. That's what I'm seeing, what are you talking about?
John C. Dvorak:
It wasn't -- I don't know, maybe was-- I actually didn't see this anywhere, except on Democracy Now, but I assumed that every network would be playing this because it's one of the biggest deals we've ever gone through in our country's history. The longest embargo. Last week was the fiftieth [50th] anniversary of the Cuban embargo.
Adam Curry:
[scoff]
John C. Dvorak:
The longest embargo in the history of the world. That had to be on all the networks.
Adam Curry:
Did we have a firework display?
John C. Dvorak:
I don't know. But I do have the one clip from Democracy Now, which I know they talked about it.
Clip:
[Female voice] Up until the Cuban revolution that overthrew the US-backed dictator Fulgencio Batista. Not long after the US responded with sanctions to punish Cuba's revolutionary government. Well there are no commemorations planned in Washington
John C. Dvorak:
What!?
Clip:
but today marks the fiftieth [50th] anniversary of the US embargo.
Adam Curry:
No com-- no commemorations, we didn't have a ticker tape parade?
John C. Dvorak:
What!?
Adam Curry:
[Laughs] We didn't-- what is, what is wrong with us? Did she actually, actually said "commemorations."
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Clip:
... government. Well there are no commemorations planned in Washington but today marks the fiftieth anniversary of the US embargo against Cuba, the longest running embargo in the world. On February seventh nineteen sixty two (1962-02-07) President John F. Kennedy formally expanded the harsh regime of commercial and financial sanctions against Cuba that have continued to the present day. The embargo has been solidly bipartisan, notably intensifying
Clip:
under the Helms-Burton act of nineteen ninety-six (1996) which was passed by a Republican controlled congress and signed into law by President Bill Clinton, a Democrat. The US has targeted Cuba in defiance of widespread international condemnation. Last year marked the twentieth [20th] consecutive year the UN General Assembly has voted to call for the embargo's repeal. The vote was a hundred eighty six (186) to two (2). With the US joined only by Israel in opposition.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, and I think Ron Paul voted against then too, right.
John C. Dvorak:
Hey wait a minute.
Adam Curry:
What?
John C. Dvorak:
Hey, hold on a sec. I didn't listen to this.
John C. Dvorak:
Are you telling me that the UN for the last [20] twenty years has been bringing this up and the only two people that vote against it are the US, and what does Israel have to do with it? a,
Adam Curry:
Mhm.
John C. Dvorak:
and b, I thought whatever the UN told us to do, we did. I mean, we into this Libya thing and spent millions, billions of dollars on a, on an air cover and bombing campaign, because of the UN. What am I missing here?
Adam Curry:
Oh, well it's interesting you bring that up. Umm.
Adam Curry:
I have uh, people who sponsored the last show, and this show, will be very pleased with the value they're going to get for their money. I have spend about three days non-stop on, I'm seriously not kidding, eighteen (18) hours a day, and I think I have figured out the big picture.
John C. Dvorak:
[Laughing]
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
Wait a minute.
Adam Curry:
Yah.
SFX:
Slide whistle.
Adam Curry:
I know. Oh yeah. No. The really, really big picture. And I have a, I have a little presentation for you.
Adam Curry:
as well, John.
John C. Dvorak:
I would think, yes.
Adam Curry:
But let's thank our donors for this episode first, and then we'll get to that.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, that's a great idea. Uh, you know, we should be thanking the donors right about now, as I go back and click on this button, just to make sure that I do have the donors here.
Adam Curry:
[Laughs]
John C. Dvorak:
[Laughs]
Adam Curry:
Hey.
John C. Dvorak:
You know, it's like,
Adam Curry:
Are you trying to fill time? Helloo?
Jingle:
Hey citizen.
John C. Dvorak:
[Laughs] No, you know, I was wondering, can you play the, ah,
John C. Dvorak:
the ah, No Agenda national anthem while I download this thing here. I'm sorry.
Adam Curry:
Sure!
Jingle:
Ladies and Gentlemen, please rise for your Gitmo Nation National Anthem.
John C. Dvorak:
OK, you can stop, you can stop. That's enough.
Adam Curry:
No, we're going to sing along.
Jingle:
In the morning Gitmo Nation / We are all charged up to be Human resources and servants / In all lands and all ships at sea.
Jingle:
From the east to west, Down under too, The Low-lands and beyond, We are happy and distracted slaves - In our Gitmo Nation song.
Jingle:
Hey citizen.
Jingle:
[Crowd] In the morning.
Adam Curry:
You can't interrupt the national anthem with like, "Oh stop, that's enough." No it doesn't work that way.
John C. Dvorak:
You could do that.
Adam Curry:
No, it doesn't work that way.
John C. Dvorak:
Okay, we played it.
John C. Dvorak:
OK, we do have a lot of people to thank for today's show.
Adam Curry:
Good.
John C. Dvorak:
We've got two Executive Producers
Adam Curry:
Good.
John C. Dvorak:
and a slew of associates, and let's start with them. Ah. Moiz Khan.
Adam Curry:
Yes, Citizen Khan. And he, ah, is our Executive Producer today with, ah
John C. Dvorak:
Three eighty (USD 380)
Adam Curry:
Three eighty, and he sent me a long note of which I will paraphrase. This is the guy who was in, ah, in Pakistan and went to see bin Laden's compound in Abbottabad.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh right, this is our Pakistan guy.
Adam Curry:
Exactly. And he had requested some travel karma. And before I get to the travel karma story,
Adam Curry:
he says, this is, just a little extra note, he's actually Canadian, or he lives in Canada.
"Since I have returned to Canada, I have been busy and hadn't had the opportunity to review my photos. However, I want you to know, I am working on getting a photo of some Pakistani soldiers in front of Bin Laden's house holding up a shut up slave dot com sign."
John C. Dvorak:
[Laughs]
Adam Curry:
How awesome would that be?
John C. Dvorak:
I love the Canadians.
Adam Curry:
[Laughs] "Anyway so I asked for some karma to get my family back into Canada a few episodes back" Umm,
Adam Curry:
He says, "you put it on three seven three (373), you kinda forgot to give me karma" he says. "The nerve. However it turns out karma knows what's best and helped me out anyway."
Umm. Turns out his son is on the no-fly list. His son is three (3) years old. "He has an unfortunately common name and it now prompts me to change that. So, we were checking in on a domestic flight to Calgary," from Toronto to Calgary, hello, it was an internal flight.
"The flight attendant,"
Adam Curry:
"or whatever you call them, had to wait on hold for about half an hour. I asked what's the problem, she said, "well, you probably get this all the time. Normally we don't have to wait on hold. Sorry about this, but you're on the no-fly list.""
And, of course he's Pakistani. In other words, 'hey the guy looks like a terrorist, I'd better make a call.' So he's on the no-fly list, and then she says oh actually, turns out your son is on the no-fly list.
John C. Dvorak:
[wicked laugh]
Adam Curry:
So they finally, ah, they finally did get home. He says, "my first day back was January seventeenth (2012-01-17)."
Adam Curry:
"I went like any slave would, especially after four weeks off. I received an email from a friend inviting me to come for a free lunch on January eighteenth (2012-01-18)..." Warning: free lunches, always dangerous. "... and apply for a contract position at about double my current salary. I was dubious but thought I'd better attend the free lunch. My friend gave me more details about the position. I figured I had nothing to lose so, I wrote up my resume that night. Over the next week and a half, I had three interviews. My boss, also a No Agenda listener, gave me a raise. If the job doesn't pan out, at least I got the raise."
Adam Curry:
"Then I received an offer for the contract position the following Monday!" So he says his karma has worked out more than sufficiently. And he's v--
John C. Dvorak:
I would think.
Adam Curry:
And hence his donation of three hundred and eighty dollars (USD 380) to the program for today's show. And you will not be disappointed, my friend. Thank you so much.
John C. Dvorak:
So, give him another shot of karma. See what happens.
Adam Curry:
Absolutely. [Laughing] Indeed. Let's see what happens. Of course.
I want to have that sign of the Pakistani soldiers in front of
John C. Dvorak:
Oh we gotta get that sign.
Adam Curry:
Bin Laden's c--
John C. Dvorak:
That would be great.
Although people would say, "Oh, that's just photoshopped."
Adam Curry:
I know.
John C. Dvorak:
I assume this is the real deal.
Adam Curry:
That's always what the problem is. And of course it'll get used and then people'll photoshop their own message and it'll have some--
John C. Dvorak:
Yes, but you know, there is a product, there's a secret, there's a piece of code floating around that the public generally can't get a hold of, it's used by law enforcement,
Adam Curry:
Mhm
John C. Dvorak:
Adobe created it. You can-- I will have a copy.
Adam Curry:
Oh.
John C. Dvorak:
You can run any photo through it,
Adam Curry:
Uh-huh.
John C. Dvorak:
And it will, it's got an algorithm looking for, -- any sort --
Adam Curry:
Anomalies?
John C. Dvorak:
-- of remnants of photoshopping, double, ah
Adam Curry:
Ah. Well let's run the birth certificate through that.
John C. Dvorak:
[Laughing]
Adam Curry:
Yah.
John C. Dvorak:
So anyway, you can look at, and see that stuff's not photoshopped. It's very important to have this kind of code. So anyway, I also want to thank Daniel Strachser. R Daniels.
Adam Curry:
Oh, I know why he's donating.
John C. Dvorak:
Why?
Adam Curry:
I gave him -- the thing I'm going to talk about later. I gave him all this,
Adam Curry:
you know what he does, right? We don't have to tell everybody.
John C. Dvorak:
Three three three (USD 333).
Adam Curry:
But I gave him some ah, I gave him, I was testing my theories on him. That I'm going to talk about in a minute. And he liked it so much he came back with-- [Laughing]
John C. Dvorak:
Sir R. With no comment.
Adam Curry:
Yeah. No, I know. I know.
John C. Dvorak:
And Erica. I'm sorry, not Erica. Eric Wilka in Russiaville. He's associate executive producer two fourteen twelve (USD 214.12). Uh,
"In the morning, Citizen John and Citizen Adam,"
John C. Dvorak:
"for the Best Podcast in the Universe! Please give me a Karma shout out as I am about to graduate with my Masters, and start living the American Dream of "just getting by". Also can I get a Karma shout out for my fellow No Agenda Producer/Listener Kevin Flick for his fight against a very serious medical issue. Thank you both for your wonderful original analysis!
Adam Curry:
Aww. Absolutely. Here comes a nice little shot of Karma for you both.
Jingle:
You've Got Karma
John C. Dvorak:
Meanwhile, Joe, the DishSlave
Adam Curry:
Hey!
John C. Dvorak:
... comes in from Stockton, California
Adam Curry:
Hey Joe!
John C. Dvorak:
.. two-eleven (211.00 USD)
John C. Dvorak:
[Reading Joe's note] Joe the DishSlave here, after a bit of donation hiatus, here's a catch up donation...
John C. Dvorak:
Actually he sent us money. I didn't get any ketchup, did you?
Adam Curry:
[chuckle]
John C. Dvorak:
[Reading Joe's note again] ".. that doubles as a Birthday donation. My birthday is on two-eleven (2/11) Would it be possible for Adam to say "Joe"
[Both Adam and John laugh]
Adam Curry:
I'll say it later
John C. Dvorak:
[laughs]
Adam Curry:
Why does he want me to say that?
John C. Dvorak:
I don't KNOW!
Adam Curry:
I'll say it at the end because otherwise new people will be like, [in a gruffy voice] "I can't listen to this show!"
John C. Dvorak:
Well say.. okay ..
Adam Curry:
... there's cussin'! Cussin'! ..
John C. Dvorak:
.. this way they will have to listen to the whole show to get it at the very end
John C. Dvorak:
[Cont'd reading note] "Also mention my podcast The Ozone Nightmare. It would be great and please send some Karma out for my mother.
Jingle:
You've Got Karma
John C. Dvorak:
Sir Scott Henkle in Sunland California comes in with two-ten-twelve [$210.12 USD] which is one of the requests that we had on a little mailing. Which is for tomorrow, which is two-ten-twelve [2/10/12], which is a palindrome.
Adam Curry:
Hey that mailing really worked! We got like, what ..
John C. Dvorak:
Three (3)
Adam Curry:
Oh! We got like three (3) okay.
[Adam and John laugh]
Adam Curry:
Woo!
John C. Dvorak:
Three (3) is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick!
Adam Curry:
Hell yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
[Con't reading the letter] "You know, you may have something with this Karma. With that being said, I would like to give my wife and myself some Karma [John starts laughing] to overcome"
Adam Curry:
[Chuckles]
John C. Dvorak:
{Con;t reading letter] ".. the past few crappy weeks! Huh!
Adam Curry:
Oh man, here's some relationship Karma, I guess
Jingle:
You've Got Karma
John C. Dvorak:
[inaudible mumbling] He didn't take out the Valentine's Karma, or that sort of thing. Um, and oh, by the way, Eric Wilkins two-fourteen-twelve ($214.12 USD) was a Valentine's Day Thing
Adam Curry:
It's also a palindrome, by the way.
John C. Dvorak:
Yes! You pointed it out to me. For some reason I ...
Adam Curry:
You hadn't seen it?
John C. Dvorak:
I couldn't see it.
Adam Curry:
And then do we have one more show before Valentine's Day? Yeah. We have a Sunday, right?
John C. Dvorak:
Sunday then Valentine's Day
Adam Curry:
You get a special credit at the top of the list, by the way. Two-fourteen [2/14] Valentine Donation so we'll put that up at the top.
John C. Dvorak:
He says ... Allan Covito, the Third [III] in Richmond, Virginia two-ten-twelve [2/10/12] Who says he's had enough of the slide whistle.
Adam Curry:
[Laughs]
John C. Dvorak:
He's paying you more than ever before, just to get you to stop with the fricken whistle!
Adam Curry:
It'll take a lot more than that
John C. Dvorak:
of course, paying you money to make you stop is kind of a reverse thing that may not work out because all that you have to do is keep blowing it and I'll have to give you more money. This isn't going to work. I love what you guys do for the country in large ways and small. He's in Virginia, so he must have something to do with something
Adam Curry:
Yea, you think?
John C. Dvorak:
Try to get some coke brothers money, hey we tried to get some coke brothers money and it didn't work out.
John C. Dvorak:
And John, who cannot seem to pronounce some of your contributing names have amazed me twice before by correctly pronouncing my name each time Cavito like Torpedo.
Adam Curry:
Alright, well here's some karma for you, right off the bat. I think you deserve that.
Jingle:
You've got karma
Adam Curry:
Because you're not going to get John to stop the slide whistle. And quite honestly we were talking in the preshow, that when this show comes to its natural end or we are both ended, ugh John at least will have a skill.
John C. Dvorak:
I'm getting better with it.
Adam Curry:
Yeah dude, you're getting really good. I actually enjoy it when you play the slide whistle.
John C. Dvorak:
It takes a while to get the hang of it, I'm still about a year away from being able to play a song a Capella.
Adam Curry:
From your first performance.
John C. Dvorak:
It was my first Carnegie Hall.
John C. Dvorak:
Andrew Gardner, in Avenue MD, two-ten-twelve [210.12]. "In the morning, trying to even out the donating to avoid a feast/famine effect. Couldn't resist the palindromic karma effects of two-one-oh-one-two [210.12]. Could I please get a "Hey Citizen"/Karma shot?
Adam Curry:
Yea absolutely, let me try it out.
Jingle:
"Hey Citizen"
Jingle:
"Hey Citizen! You've got Karma"
John C. Dvorak:
And he wants to call out the 99% non-donaters as douche bags.
Jingle:
"Douche Bag!"
John C. Dvorak:
Then we have ugh, Christopher Scalenda, $200, without a comment
Adam Curry:
Oh, that's uh uh uh, Chris he helped me out with my Android App. Good guy, good to see you back, Chris.
John C. Dvorak:
Sid Cognito in Melville, New York. $200 with a little comment. I admire the amount of work that you put into the show, I'm glad to help keep it going.
John C. Dvorak:
Working towards an eventual knight hood I'm donating another $200 as before please don't mention my name just credit me as Sid Incognito. I don't need any Karma but I think you do, please play the Huntsmen Chinese clip because I think it applies to you mostly Adam
Adam Curry:
laughs, what?
John C. Dvorak:
And plug sciencebasedmedicine.org. Hopefully that will balance out the negative karma from some of your negative vaccine non-sense.
Jingle:
Huntsman clip
Adam Curry:
OK, well wait I got more, I got a doosey coming up for you my friend.
Adam Curry:
OK, I got more. I got the doosey coming up my friend.
I'm not anti-vacine!
John C. Dvorak:
No, it's true. he's not anti-vacine, he's-
Adam Curry:
I'm anti Guardasil and anti swine flu. That's what I'm anti.
John C. Dvorak:
Mark Morley in Twickenham, Middlesex - two hundred dollars ($200) without comment.
And we want to thank them and everyone else for donating to the show - especially our Executive Producers who came in with bigger donations. And we want to remind everybody, everything matters. Go to dvorak.org/na, channeldvorak.com/na, noagendashow.com
John C. Dvorak:
and noagendanation.com and hit the "Donate" button at those two sites, and we'll be continuing.
Jingle:
Dvorak dot org slash N A
Adam Curry:
Yes, and of course we have the palindrome for valentines Day coming up and nothing says 'I love you' more than a donation to No Agenda, that is a fact.
P.R. quick P.R. mention we've got here. Um [chuckle] this is -- Sir Craig comes in with a domain name,
Adam Curry:
he must have paid a lot of money for this.
Pointing to noagendashow.com from the new XXX top level domain series.
John C. Dvorak:
Ooh!
Adam Curry:
We have release dot xxx, which I think is [chuckle] nice.
John C. Dvorak:
[laughs] Oh, God.
Adam Curry:
I don't know how many people are like, "oh, man I got to check out release dot x" --
[thud on Adam's desk]
Oh, thank you darling.
John C. Dvorak:
What?!
Adam Curry:
release dot what?! Yuh, yuh exactly.
Everyone else out there, of course you have a mission it is to go out and propagate our formula
Adam Curry:
Everyone else out there, of course you do have a mission: it is to go out and propagate our formula.
Jingle:
[drums] Our formula is this: We go out. We hit people in the mouth. [heavy metal music] New! World! Order!
Adam Curry:
Say it with me now everybody. Shut up slave!
Jingle:
Shut up slave!
John C. Dvorak:
[duck call noisemaker]
Adam Curry:
Ahh. Alright, you ready?
John C. Dvorak:
Uh, we gonna go right into your thing?
Adam Curry:
Yeah, it's gonna take a while.
John C. Dvorak:
Well, how long is it gonna take?
Adam Curry:
I don't know, it depends.
I might, You might immediately go "ugh".
John C. Dvorak:
I might.
Adam Curry:
Uh huh.
John C. Dvorak:
Alright, well start.
Adam Curry:
That would be really unfortunate.
John C. Dvorak:
I'll start asking questions.
Adam Curry:
Okay.
But what is one of the premises, that we...
And we actually talked about this on two hundred dot five (200.5).
One of the premises of our view of the world.
[laughter] Yeah, there you go.
John C. Dvorak:
What?
Adam Curry:
Well, what do you mean "what"?
John C. Dvorak:
You're asking me a question right off the bat?
John C. Dvorak:
I thought you were going to start into a diatribe.
Adam Curry:
No, it's a question. I need to ease you into it.
John C. Dvorak:
Well I don't know, I'm not going to answer this question.
Adam Curry:
It's all about oil, isn't that what we've always said?
John C. Dvorak:
Oh yeah, it's always about oil. Yeah, that's one of our many many models.
Adam Curry:
Well, this is...
John C. Dvorak:
And to take it to a further extreme, it's about everybody else's oil. We just want to keep ours and then break the world, and then we have all this oil and we can be the number one dog on the block.
Adam Curry:
Right.
So, I think...
John C. Dvorak:
Which is fine with me.
Adam Curry:
Yeah yeah yeah.
I think we were a little bit distracted by the oil per se.
Adam Curry:
Because what I... And it really took me...
And again, I've been working at this eighteen (18) hours a day for three (3) days straight.
And what I realized is, it's no longer just about oil. Oil, of course, yeah, important. But what's going on, and I'll just give you a little taste, if you haven't seen it, if you haven't heard it, this is the only thing dominating the news in America today.
Clip:
The shattering explosions come every few minutes in the besieged Syrian city of Homs.
Clip:
Uh, residents say government troops are using rockets [back ground guy shouting "Allah Akbar"] and heavy artillery in a bombardment that has gone on for days.
As the shells fall, the slaughter mounts.
Another sixty (60) men and women and children were reported killed today.
But residents say they could not even count
the dead...
Adam Curry:
"We can't even count the dead anymore!"
Now we talked on the last show, John.
We talked about: why is this being hyped up about Syria?
What is going on?
Adam Curry:
I mean, there is so much incredible hype, that there must be something happening.
Did you pick up on anything?
I mean, we've been waiting for this in the New York Times.
Is anything happened with Syria?
John C. Dvorak:
Anything new?
Adam Curry:
No, I mean, all of a sudden it seems like someone turned the "on" switch and pushed it towards eleven (11) and said, "We gotta... Syria! It's all about Syria. Syria, Syria, Syria, Syria, Syria."
John C. Dvorak:
Well, I have a bunch of thoughts on this too, with a bunch of clips.
But I'm more now interested in what you're what you think you've dug up.
Adam Curry:
Okay, alright, alright.
John C. Dvorak:
I know, I prefaced with unnecessary uh, go on.
Adam Curry:
Alright, so I'm going to tell you that this is not about oil.
This is about gas.
And it only really struck me when I started to gather a couple of maps.
Now John, get your browser ready, 'cause I'm gonna give you a URL...
John C. Dvorak:
Okay, browser ready, boss!
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
Is your browser ready?
John C. Dvorak:
Browser's ready, it's up and ready!
Should I be in the Google box, or should I be in the URL box?
Adam Curry:
[laughter] URL box.
Put your cursor in the URL box.
John C. Dvorak:
Alright, I'm ready, go.
Adam Curry:
Because once you load this, you only have like twenty (20) seconds and the rest of the listeners are gonna go get it, and it's gonna crash the server.
John C. Dvorak:
[sound with mouth]
Adam Curry:
Ready?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
Pipelines dot curry dot com. [http://pipelines.curry.com/]
You got it?
Pipelines dot curry dot com.
Tell me when you have the page loaded.
John C. Dvorak:
Page is up.
Adam Curry:
Page is up, alright.
John C. Dvorak:
It's a picture of you when you're ten (10).
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
Adam Curry:
Now scroll down a little.
[laughter]
Yes, that's it, it's his fault!
Okay, first, and people at home can play along with this.
So I want to show you...
And these are not maps I created, these are ones I got from presentations.
Don't scroll to the bottom, just stay where you are, okay?
You with me?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Adam Curry:
So the first picture here shows the state of gas.
It says "oil and gas" but it'll be about gas and you'll find out why.
So on the right here, you see all this Russian region.
Adam Curry:
You see bits of Iraq, and Iran, and you see that's the largest oil and gas sources of the world.
And the market, the largest market, is Europe, right?
That's the second largest market.
Of course, we have other big markets, but that is a huge oil market, right?
Er, gas market.
And of course, the natural route of transit is through Turkey, going from...
And a lot of this, if you go to the second one, you see these are all the pipelines.
So we have the pipelines, we have the south stream, the blue stream,
Adam Curry:
and you'll see that a lot of this goes through the Ukraine, through Slovakia.
They built the south stream, which, this is interesting, which goes through Greece, and then from Greece it goes to Italy.
And of course, Europe is highly dependent upon gas for a number of reasons.
And gas became very important in this past year.
The reason...
John C. Dvorak:
Well gas has become, also we have to note, there's a... to back your thesis up here:
The recent memes about the cold, cold, cold weather in Europe, and people dropping dead,
John C. Dvorak:
is one of these things that makes people start to think about this.
Adam Curry:
Well there's one other reason, which I didn't actually realize, but Japan is in huge, has a huge demand now for natural gas.
Why? Because...
John C. Dvorak:
Why? Because...
Adam Curry:
They no longer have their nuclear facility.
And the next option, next to nuclear, when it comes to "what is the cleanest?", "what is the cheapest?", and "what is the easiest to deal with?" is natural gas.
Now you'll recall that right after Fukushima,
Adam Curry:
Germany said, "Oh, that's it. We're shuttin' down all our nuclear plants. No more nukes!"
So they need more gas to generate electricity.
That's just a side-note, but something to bear in mind.
John C. Dvorak:
First of all, before you continue...
Adam Curry:
Mm hmm.
John C. Dvorak:
...our basic premise in our show two hundred point five (200.5), that it's all about, it's always about the oil, it applies to gas!
Adam Curry:
It does, but there's something else...
Adam Curry:
...that happened that we have probably forgotten, that changed the entire picture, and will explain in everything.
John C. Dvorak:
Alright, go on.
Adam Curry:
And I think it's a model we can apply to everything that's happening.
Scroll down to the...
John C. Dvorak:
I got the name for the title for this show already.
Adam Curry:
Good.
John C. Dvorak:
"The big tease".
Adam Curry:
[chuckle]
Scroll down to the third map.
Now this is the Arab gas pipeline.
And you'll see the Arab gas pipeline starts down there at Arish, right?
This is where Egyptian gas was shipped into Arish,
Adam Curry:
and then the pipeline goes all the way up, passing Israel on the right hand side.
John C. Dvorak:
It actually bypasses Israel.
Adam Curry:
Bypasses Israel, Damascus, up to Homs.
Gee, where have I heard that name recently?
Uh, every ten (10) seconds on the news.
Scroll down to the fourth (4th) map.
What's interesting is the Arab gas pipeline only goes to Homs.
It's not complete, because the mission is to complete the final...
Adam Curry:
...two hundred and thirty kilometers (230 km) into Turkey, known as the Arab... as the Syrian Turkey pipeline.
So what was happening, is we had natural gas being shipped in.
And this is, in a way, in many ways, competitive to all the Russian gas.
You with me?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, yeah.
Adam Curry:
Although the Russians are in on... everyone's in on it, particularly Europe and the Russians are also in on the Syrian Turkey pipeline.
Adam Curry:
So, this is the way that gas was flowing.
And we're gonna relate this back to Arab Spring in a moment.
What happened on December thirtieth of two thousand ten (2010-12-30)?
John C. Dvorak:
I don't know, you tell me, Adam.
Adam Curry:
We discussed it, but we didn't really think about what the true... and all this is in the show notes, by the way.
We didn't think about the true parameters of what this meant.
The Leviathan gas field was discovered.
This is the largest discovery of gas in...our century.
Adam Curry:
And it's right off the coast of Israel, the northern coast of Israel.
And it goes all the way, basically, to Cyprus.
Ooh, boy, isn't that interesting?
So, all of a sudden, the entire dynamics changed.
Israel, which has always had to import their gas, and they imported it, by the way, straight from Syria, through that Arab pipeline.
Adam Curry:
Israel now will become one of the largest suppliers of gas.
Now, if all of the sudden we had this huge gas field, sitting right there in the Mediterranean, and we have the biggest consumer, being Europe, what is the most logical route?
The most logical route is to go through Cyprus, straight into Greece, bypassing that entire other chart that you saw.
Adam Curry:
Bypassing this entire deal that you've seen with the Arab pipeline, the Arab gas pipeline.
John C. Dvorak:
And Cyprus is owned by the Russians.
Adam Curry:
Cyprus is owned partially by the Russians.
Cyprus is owned partially by Greece.
Turkey is very pissed off about the whole Cyprus thing.
John C. Dvorak:
Yes.
Adam Curry:
But who do we see showing up in Cyprus?
We see Hillary Clinton showing up.
There's a company there called Noble Energy.
And Noble Energy has very tight ties to...
Adam Curry:
...the Bush family and the Clinton family, because Israel got a little bit greedy and they said, "Hey, you know, those laws we had in nineteen fifty one (1951) about how, you know, if we ever had any kind of natural resources, we'd tax them really low? We're gonna jack that up a little bit, if you don't mind. Just a little bit, because, you know, we can make some money here."
And then Hillary Clinton immediately came out and said, "Hey, you know, this is no good".
And then she started working on something called, "The Law of the Seas" remember that?
Adam Curry:
The Law of the Seas, which determines the territory of each individual country, and all the rest belongs to the U.N., or some other bull crap like that?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, good.
Adam Curry:
Because who actually owns this?
Well, Lebanon says it's theirs, or at least part of it.
Israel's like, "No no no, this is the promised land, man. This is what Moses brought us here for. This is ours."
Cyprus is saying, "You know what, I think maybe it's ours, but we've got Noble Energy here, the Houston-based company. We'll work with you, no problem."
Adam Curry:
"We'll be your buddies."
And we've seen a whole lot of really interesting things happen between Israel and uh, Cyprus, but also Greece.
Homs, of course, is really important, because you want two things to happen.
Gas is very cheap right now, so we can't just say...
John C. Dvorak:
It's depressed, actually.
Adam Curry:
Right.
We can't just say, "Oh, here's all this gas", because it won't even be worth it to export it.
Adam Curry:
But if we can create some kind of scarcity, i.e. "let's blow up some pipelines", right?
And what happens in Homs?
Pipelines... it's getting blown up, continuously.
Oop! blown up.
Now, three (3) months after this discovery — three (3) months! — the Arab Spring starts.
I'll remind you that Egypt was exporting their gas into the Arab pipeline, which bypasses Israel.
Adam Curry:
Not only did we see the entire regime and the whole country destabilized, but their pipeline was blown up four (4) times during that time — four (4) times!
Libya, hmm.
Libya was exporting their natural gas to Italy, straight into Europe.
That stopped, when all of the sudden we had the Arab Spring and the Libyan no fly zone.
[whistle] Stopped.
Done.
No more natural gas was exported.
They're trying to restart that, but they're not going to.
Adam Curry:
Tunisia delivers natural gas to Italy via Algeria.
So this has always been about the gas.
Now let's check in on some of the elites and what they're doing.
This is where it gets really, really crazy.
Um,I have a clip here.
This is the new Minister of Energy for Greece. It just, it gets, it just gets too funny.
Adam Curry:
And he used to be the Economic Minister for Greece.
And he is actually the Ministry of the Economy up until the crisis, and all of the sudden he switched roles, and he became the Minister of Gas.
And why, you'll figure out in a second.
So he goes to Jerusalem, because the Greeks, of course, they wanna have this deal.
They want to have this gas coming in from this huge Israeli field to sell to Europe,
Adam Curry:
and basically shut everybody else out.
So he goes to Israel, and he does an interview with the Jerusalem post.
But the interviewer is like a thirteen (13) year old girl.
So he's really cavalier.
You know, like, he's just laying it all out there, and the things he says are outrageously amazing.
Here's question one (1), about exporting gas from Israel to Greece, and then from Greece to Europe.
Clip (Speaker 1):
Only a few weeks following the formation of the Greek Unity Government, environment,
Clip (Speaker 1):
Energy, and Climate Change Minister, George Papaconstantino, is the first Greek official to visit Israel as a representative of the new coalition.
Clip (Speaker 2):
Is Greece considering importing Israeli natural gas?
Clip (George Papaconstantino):
There is at the moment a big discussions on how to bring to Europe gas from a number of areas outside Europe, and diversify sources.
The negotiations, for example, on bringing gas from the Caspian sea are now going to come to conclusion.
Clip (George Papaconstantino):
We are trying to make Greece the hub for gas transit to northern European countries, either via Italy or through the Balkans.
And in that context, the discussions with Israel are ongoing on the possibility to bring in also Israeli gas.
And these have been discussed at high level in the past, between the two prime ministers, and at senior government level.
Adam Curry:
So this new Prime Minister in Greece is very interesting.
The old guy, Papandreou, he actually was trying to do a deal with the Russians for the, let me get the name of it here, the pipeline...
[humming]
Here it is, the Burgas Alexandroupolis, which would come from the Russians, through Bulgaria, into Greece.
So this is why he had to go,
Adam Curry:
...because they, it's like, "Wait a minute, we got all this Israeli oil. We don't want that stupid pipeline that's way too long. We can ship it right through Cyprus. We own half of that anyway. We can still work with the Russians. We can still put a deal together, but we're gonna be the guys."
So they bring in the new Prime Minister.
And this Prime Minister is all over that.
Clip (Speaker 2):
The new Greek Prime Minister, as of November eleventh (2011-11-11), Lucas Papademos, last week told Netanyahu that they're interested in strengthening relations with Israel.
Clip (Speaker 2):
What do you think he meant by this, exactly?
Clip (George Papaconstantino):
I have learned in politics to never interpret what the Prime Minster says. [chuckle]
However, for the last few years, starting with the previous government, George Papandreou's government, there's been clearly a new page opened in the relationship between the two countries.
And I think there have been many instances,
Clip (George Papaconstantino):
There's been the visit, of course, that has happened to Greece, and a clear desire on both sides to move closer on a number of issues, political, economic, et cetera.
So Prime Minister Papademos is simply pushing that further, and he spoke with Prime Minister Netanyahu a few days to reaffirm a willingness to keep a cooperation that is mutually beneficial.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, mutually beneficial.
So all code words for, "Hell yeah, we're doing a deal with those guys, you kidding me?! This is gonna be great for us!"
One reminder once again about this guy, this Greek Energy Minister.
Clip (Speaker 1):
...Papaconstantino also served as the Greek Finance Minister until summer of this year, and he talked about some of the causes of the economic issues facing Greece.
Adam Curry:
So he was part of the collapse of Greece.
And I believe that he was a true shill.
Because what has been happening with Greece as they're trying to figure out their deals?
Adam Curry:
It's not... this is where I made the mistake.
I thought, you know, it's really it's all about the austerity measures.
No, no, no, no, no.
It's also about the privatization.
Remember we were talking about Greece selling everything off.
So what is going to be privatized?
John C. Dvorak:
Well, obviously, this transit of natural gas is part of this privatization deal, so you don't have the government soaking up this...
John C. Dvorak:
...what's gonna be a bonanza, and then passing it out to the public.
Adam Curry:
Right.
So they're privatizing the airports.
They're also privatizing the port, in general.
But they're also going to... actually I have the list here.
Concession of the ports and airports, Athens International, sale in the stake of the public gas corporation.
John C. Dvorak:
Ah, there it is.
Adam Curry:
Uh huh.
Also the sale of the banks.
Now, the gas corporation, the electrical corporation, is DEPA, D.E.P.A...
Adam Curry:
The CEO of DEPA is a certain Mr. Harry Sachinis.
[chuckle]
This just gets crazier.
He was also Group Vice President of Standards and Poor's!
So, I think what's going on right before our very eyes, is they're trying to delay as much as possible the Greek bailout, because it's not about the deals with the pensions.
It's all about the sale of the state assets.
This is exactly what happened in Russia, by the way.
Adam Curry:
This is how you get the oligarchs.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, Russia sold off all their really great assets to these oligarchs, who now are billionaires overnight.
Adam Curry:
Mm hmm.
John C. Dvorak:
Largely because of this, essentially taking what was in the public trust.
Adam Curry:
Mm hmm.
John C. Dvorak:
And instead of sharing it...
I mean, we've seen evidence of many stories we've talked about over the years about, you know, where some government, like Ecuador for example, wants to take their oil reserves, and not give all their money to Standard Oil or Texaco, but to pass it to the public.
John C. Dvorak:
ac;Right.
John C. Dvorak:
The way they kind of do in Kuwait, and in parts of the Middle East.
They share the wealth with the public at large.
I mean, California, for example, if we did that here, we'd all be rich.
Adam Curry:
So... yeah!
So this is, actually I have the... some of the articles speak of the "New Energy Order", and Israel is...
And, you know, we use this for jet fuel...
And by the way, wherever there's gas, there's usually oil.
And this thing...
Adam Curry:
...if you look at the Leviathan field, it is literally the mother load.
Who was the first company?
Now remember, Noble Energy is key here.
Noble Energy, a lot of ties to the... they're from Houston, so a lot of ties to Bush, but also to Clinton.
Who was the first company to get the offshore drilling contracts when President Obama opened up the Gulf coast?
Noble Energy.
They were the first ones.
They're all in line.
Adam Curry:
Clinton was, you know, has been pressing Turkish officials to back off from threats to send warships to waters around Cyprus in a dispute over the energy deposits.
She is completely protecting Cyprus, and this is not necessarily country against country.
This is corporate warfare, between different gas and oil companies, depending on who they're affiliated with, being fought with real guns against real people.
Adam Curry:
So this whole Syria thing is not necessarily Russia who are trying to protect them, but it's factions within Russia who are most likely working with... with the Russian Cyprus faction, who are working with the Clintons and the Bushs on Noble Energy, who really just want to make sure that there's enough demand.
So let's ratchet down the gas to Europe, and we've already seen that thirty percent (30%) less gas is being transported.
Adam Curry:
...from, what is the big Russian company, I have it here somewhere.
John C. Dvorak:
Uh, yeah, them.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, you know, they "Oh, it's too cold here, we can't send you enough. We have pipelines being blown up continuously."
Well who's doing the blowing up of the pipelines, and why?
Simple!
Because they need... it's a very short pipeline they've gotta build between this... basically between Cyprus and Greece, because they're not gonna... it doesn't have to go from Israel, it's Cyprus to Greece.
Adam Curry:
And Israel is now building military facilities in Cyprus.
Umm... here we go... well it's all in the show notes at three eight one dot NA show notes dot com [http://381.nashownotes.com/]
And this destabilizing of Syria is probably... And now I'm just going into hypothesis mode... Is probably our promise and probably Clinton's,
Adam Curry:
Hillary/Lucifer's promise, like, "Hey, don't worry about it, Israel. We're gonna hook you up, because we're all in on the back end of this. We're gonna make sure that that gas is not flowing from Homs up to Turkey. We're not gonna have that happen."
So this whole thing, everything, right back to the Arab Spring, this all started after this huge discovery of this gas... this Leviathan — great name, by the way — Leviathan Gas Field...
John C. Dvorak:
[chuckle] Leviathan.
Adam Curry:
...in Israel.
And you can apply this to everything.
Well who's next on the list?
Italy.
And who do they put in there? Another shill.
Goldman Sachs is in on this, by the way.
I think it's a club of maybe a couple hundred people, and they're all in... they are completely in with the contracts, they know who's getting what, and they do not give a crap about people.
But they are pushing this theatre, into...
Adam Curry:
..."Oh well..."
We're not going to invade Syria.
There's no way.
The Russians are gonna take care of what they gotta take care of.
And it's probably the competing Russians who are working in Cyprus who also don't want to see this pipeline completed from Syria to Turkey.
It becomes so incredibly clear, you can almost relate anything we're seeing in the news back to this one thing. Right down to Romney and Santorum and Gingrich, who are all sucking off Israel.
They know!
Adam Curry:
They know where the money is at.
They know it.
Why is Israel so important?
Well now it actually is!
It is important, because it's trillions of dollars, perhaps.
And they don't give a crap.
They will kill anyone.
John C. Dvorak:
Well for that kind of money, you would, too.
So there's this guy, Patrick Seale, who wrote a bunch of books about the Middle East, and he's an expert out of England.
And seemed to have a grip on this whole thing, and he saw this,
John C. Dvorak:
the action in Syria as pretty much, although he never talks about this field or the oil, gas and oil uh, aspect, he does have most of the players down, and he does see it as a battle between the United States and Israel.
Adam Curry:
On the same team, obviously.
John C. Dvorak:
On the same team, against the Russians and the Chiners.
Adam Curry:
Yes, oh yes, oh yes.
John C. Dvorak:
On the opposite end, you kind of left the Chiners out.
Adam Curry:
No no, the Chiners, of course, no, the Chiners...
John C. Dvorak:
But I want to play, as a break here, I want to play two clips from this guy...
John C. Dvorak:
Both of them are a little long, but they're very interesting.
And it turns out that it's very easy to do what you're describing, in other words, blowing up these pipelines, because the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria, which is another reason we can't get involved in this thing, because they're going to end up taking over the place if the civil war continues, and then we'd get blamed.
And we already let the Muslim Brotherhood pretty much take over Egypt.
Adam Curry:
And we want them to, John, because they're just gonna muck it all up.
As long as it slows down the gas.
John C. Dvorak:
Right.
So anyway, so they've got a built-in situation, and he explains the geopolitical part.
This is called the Seary on... or Serle, is it Serl?
Adam Curry:
Serl.
John C. Dvorak:
Seale, it's actually, his name's Seale.
Adam Curry:
Ah, Seale.
John C. Dvorak:
S E A L E
Seale on the Middle Eastern security, and he kinda discusses the players, so we have an overview.
And by the way, when you listen to this, it's obvious that this *is* nothing we should get involved with, and if you watch these idiotic presentations...
And by the way, there's one other element you've gotta bring into this with this thesis:
John C. Dvorak:
The British, and British Petroleum, and M I six (MI6), who seem to be stirring up the pot on a lot of these things, and I would like to hear your take on that.
Adam Curry:
Okay.
John C. Dvorak:
But let's play this guy's take on what, you know, what factions are at work playing in that area.
Clip (Patrick Seale):
Disputes going on in the opposition.
Some say we must cooperate with the Muslim Brothers, others say "no".
Some say we must seek external intervention, others say "no".
Some say we need a dialogue.
Clip (Patrick Seale):
I believe a dialogue...
John C. Dvorak:
Is it... are you playing the right one?
You playing Serle... "Seale on Middle East security"?
Or are you playing, "what's really going on in Syria"?
Adam Curry:
Yes, "Seale on Middle East security" is the one I'm playing.
John C. Dvorak:
Huh. Okay, well then I... go on.
Adam Curry:
Want me to play the other one?
John C. Dvorak:
No.
Oh wait, yeah, play the other one first, I'm sorry.
That's the summary is the last...
Adam Curry:
The "what's really going on in Syria"?
That's the one you want me to play?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, play that, sorry.
Clip (Patrick Seale):
You see, I think to understand what's happening, one has to see this as a concerted attack, assault, on not only Syria, but Iran as well.
Clip (Patrick Seale):
You see, Iran, Syria, and their ally Hezbollah in Lebanon, that sort of trio, a sort of Tehran/Damascus/Hezbollah axis, has in recent years, has been the main obstacle to American and Israeli and Germany in the Middle East.
And the attempt now is to bring that axis down.
Of course, they're fighting back, with allies, with their friends, like precisely like Russian and China.
So that's what you're seeing on that level.
Clip (Patrick Seale):
Internally in Syria, is a completely different struggle.
Now, you see the main element in the opposition, the main, the most powerful element in the Syrian National Council, is the Muslim Brotherhood.
Now, just the other day they celebrated thirty (30)-year anniversary of the assault of Hama, by Hafez al-Assad, the father of the present President.
And in that struggle, at least ten thousand (10,000) people were killed in the city of Hama.
Clip (Patrick Seale):
Now we have to understand the background of that.
Hama in nineteen eighty-two (1982) was the climax of a terrorist campaign by the Muslim Brothers which began in the late seventies (1970s), to overthrow the Assad regime at that time.
And they seized control, the insurgents seized control of Hama, they butchered Baath Party members and officials, and only at that stage...
Clip (Patrick Seale):
...that the regime moved in, and crushed that insurgency and killed a lot of people; a lot of innocent people.
Now, the spectre of what happened then, thirty (30) years ago, hangs over the present situation.
And the Muslim Brothers, they've been outlawed for the last thirty (30) years, they've suffered all sorts of problems at the hands of the regime, and they are thirsting for revenge.
So that's why I'm saying it's, "kill or be killed".
The present government feels that these are armed insurgents...
Clip (Patrick Seale):
...and the mistake of the opposition was in fact to resort to arms.
Adam Curry:
Okay.
Who is this guy again?
Where is he from?
What does he do?
John C. Dvorak:
He's from Bri... he's a book wri... he's got a bunch of books on the Middle East.
I think he's a security expert.
Adam Curry:
Mm hmm.
John C. Dvorak:
And it seems as if that it didn't take much more than somebody, I can't imagine who, to arm the Muslim Brothers, and of course we could never take credit for doing that, because this is a group that really doesn't like us, either.
And just let all hell break loose right in that one area,
John C. Dvorak:
like you said, where pipeline ends.
Adam Curry:
Homs. Homs.
John C. Dvorak:
Now they can't... the pipeline is stuck there...
Adam Curry:
Exactly.
John C. Dvorak:
...while they're trying to deal with this crap.
And of course the reporting on this is just dreadful.
I was watching Anderson Pooper.
I have a thing if you want to listen to this.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, I do.
John C. Dvorak:
Boy, he's got some guy named Daniel.
There's no real reporting on this...
Adam Curry:
Oh yeah, Daniel, Danny.
It's Danny, Danny on Skype.
No, I've seen this, this is fantastic.
Hold on...
John C. Dvorak:
This is a fraud!
Adam Curry:
Hold on a second, which clip is it, which clip is it?
John C. Dvorak:
It should say "Anderson Cooper" somewhere.
Adam Curry:
No, I don't see any "Anderson".
That's weird.
John C. Dvorak:
[listing off names of clips]
Adam Curry:
Did you forget to send it?
Oh, that's too bad.
John C. Dvorak:
Eh, it's a poss... I do have it...
Oh there it is, right second from the top, "Bogus Syria report by Anderson Cooper".
Adam Curry:
Oh right, right.
Now this Pooper guy, I mean this Danny guy, I saw him this morning on with the morning girl.
John C. Dvorak:
Before I play it, I want to set this up.
Adam Curry:
[chuckling]
He's calling in regular reports.
John C. Dvorak:
This idiot is calling in...
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
By the way, there's a clip of him talking about some dead kid, and it's like...
Adam Curry:
But you never see the, you see the same picture of a guy with his heel leading.
John C. Dvorak:
He makes a mistake.
Adam Curry:
Oh, in this? In this?
John C. Dvorak:
Danny, yeah, if you hear... it's very hard to hear him becau... but he says, "Where's the U.S. when we need them?", but he meant "U.N.".
Adam Curry:
"U.N.", ah.
John C. Dvorak:
So he says, "Where is the U.N. when we need them?"
It's a very interesting flub.
Clip:
[soft noise]
John C. Dvorak:
But...
Adam Curry:
I'm sorry.
John C. Dvorak:
But wait, a couple other things.
I want to point out to people that in any armed conflict,
John C. Dvorak:
ever, there's always reporters who sneak behind the lines and give us at least written reports that are highly accurate.
Adam Curry:
None. None.
John C. Dvorak:
There's nothing coming out of this area.
Adam Curry:
Not a single thing.
Clip:
They were tonight on the slaughter that Bashar al-Assad and his security forces have unleashed in Syria.
U.N. Security General...
Adam Curry:
By the way, just listen to the setup.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, this is pathetic!
This is pathetic reporting.
He's... there's no proof of anything going on, I mean we do see some bombs going off here and there.
John C. Dvorak:
But you can't just report like this if you don't know for sure.
Adam Curry:
I have some great clips to fit into this.
We'll continue.
Clip:
...Ban Ki-moon, calling the regime's assault on Homs a sign of worse to come.
After four straight days of bombing and shelling, it's frankly hard to see how things could get worse.
Adam Curry:
By the way, you only see two exposions and smoke in every single video.
It's the same one over and over again.
John C. Dvorak:
Right, and the one video where it shows the explosion, first they have the camera pointed at where the rocket comes from, and then they follow it right to the point, as if it was staged.
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
Yeah, well, yes.
John C. Dvorak:
Did you notice the way that was shot?
Adam Curry:
Yes!
Adam Curry:
Well, yes.
John C. Dvorak:
Did you notice the way that was shot?
Adam Curry:
Yes! Oh no, dude, we've got so much to talk about.
Clip (Anderson Cooper):
... worse than us.
Clip:
[Explosion noises]
Adam Curry:
Woo!
Clip (Anderson Cooper):
Incoming artillery rocket fire in several c---
Adam Curry:
That's not incoming, by the way.
Clip (Anderson Cooper):
--ity neighborhoods, especially Baba Amr, where this video was taken today.
SFX:
Background noise of man talking.
Clip (Anderson Cooper):
More than five dozen people killed. Reports that field hospitals and medical professionals are being targeted, along with the wounded. Now the killing, along with the atrocities unfolding, despite Al-Assad's commitment, or stated commitment,
SFX:
Background noise of man yelling "Allah Akbar" and crowd repeating.
Clip (Anderson Cooper):
to ending the violence. He made that promise to Russia's visiting foreign minister only yesterday. He's made that promise before, of course, and that promise has always been broken. But this morning, his sincerity could be measured in dead men, dead women, and dead children.
Adam Curry:
Which we have not seen any proof of.
Clip (Anderson Cooper):
The activist and opposition member known as Danny has been risking his life daily bearing witness to all of this, posting videos on Youtube. He filed this dispatch just after today's shelling began, ah, before we show it to you, I want to warn you,
Adam Curry:
Graphic.
Clip (Anderson Cooper):
It's not especially graphic, it certainly is horrible.
Adam Curry:
[Sigh]
Clip (Anderson Cooper):
It's also the saddest --
John C. Dvorak:
Not graphic, it's horrible.
Adam Curry:
Not graphic, it's just horrible. Listen to me slave, it's horrible! [robotic voice] You-will-think-it's-horrible.
Clip (Anderson Cooper):
... reality in Homs, right now.
SFX:
Loud noises.
Clip (Danny):
[Barely audible at first] seven-twelve [7:12] a.m. This is a little child. This boy is about two years old. He got hit with this waterbomb, at his house. Is this what the UN has waited for? This is what the UN has waited for, there--
SFX:
More loud noises.
Clip (Danny):
... any more children left.
Clip (Danny):
Until they kill all the children. Kill all the women. This child lost his brains. A bomb landed in his house. He lost his whole brains. Two children killed.
SFX:
More loud noises.
Clip (Danny):
Then, a little sister. What is the UN waiting for?
Clip (Anderson Cooper):
We've been trying all day with no success to reconnect with Danny. We thought we had him several times. Communications are extremely difficult. The streets are deadly. Just before air time we managed to get in touch with another activist named Abu Abdo, who had just witnessed her friend die.
Adam Curry:
So, um, I gotta say a couple things here.
So, um, for anyone in that region to say, well where is-- 'cause I've seen more video of this guy. Who buy the way is getting a two-book deal out of it, I hear. He's gonna do great. And he's saying, "Oh we need the UN, we need the UN."
Did you know that Barbara Walters sat down with Assad and had an interview with him, a forty-five (45) minute interview. Somehow we missed this, I don't understand--
John C. Dvorak:
Was-- it wasn't recently?
Adam Curry:
It was December. That's--
John C. Dvorak:
Well it wasn't-- you sure?
Adam Curry:
Yeah. Yeah. December.
John C. Dvorak:
I thought it was, a couple of years ago.
Adam Curry:
No, it was December. It's December.
John C. Dvorak:
Well I did see it. I saw the interview.
Adam Curry:
And, ah, do you want to hear what Assad thinks about the UN?
[Chuckling]
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, I've, this is good.
Clip (Barbara Walters):
Last week, an independent United Nations commission who interviewed more than two hundred, and twenty-five (225) people issued a report. What it said was that your government committed crimes against humanity. And they went on. Torture, rape,
Clip (Barbara Walters):
and other forms of sexual violence against protestors, including against children. What do you say to them? I mean, what I am saying again and again is that protestors were, ah, were beaten. Things happened to them. Um, do you acknowledge that? Do you acknowledge what the UN said?
Clip (Bashar al-Assad):
Very simply, I would say send out the documents and the concrete evidences that you have, and we will see if that's true or not. You have lot of allega, allegations now.
Clip (Barbara Walters):
Did the UN not send you these documents?
Clip (Bashar al-Assad):
Nothing at all.
Clip (Barbara Walters):
You mean the first you hear--
Clip (Bashar al-Assad):
They didn't send, they don't have even the names.
Adam Curry:
And this is true. I've read the UN documents and just like Libya, they have no one. And Libya was like, "ohoh, all these people getting raped" and they had one women who later said, "uhh, I don't want to talk anymore."
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah and let's not forget the Viagra bull crap.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, exactly.
Clip (Bashar al-Assad):
Who are the raped people? Who are the tortured people? Who are they? We don't have any name. They didn't.
Clip (Barbara Walters):
But they've issued.
Clip (Bashar al-Assad):
We don't--. Sorry.
Clip (Barbara Walters):
Mr. President they have issued this report.
Clip (Bashar al-Assad):
Yeah.
Clip (Barbara Walters):
They have accused y--
Adam Curry:
It must be true!
Clip (Barbara Walters):
you and your regime.
Clip (Bashar al-Assad):
According to what?
Clip (Barbara Walters):
Well, according to what they said is two hundred and twenty five [225] people. Witnesses. Um, men, women, children--
Adam Curry:
That is a lie. Because they have no names and witnesses in the report. I've read the report.
Clip (Barbara Walters):
Who they interviewed and identified. And that's when they called it crimes against humanity.
Clip (Bashar al-Assad):
We are a government. We have government. We have institutions. This will -- send us the documents. As long as we don't see the documents and the evidences, we cannot say yes. That's normal.
Clip (Bashar al-Assad):
We cannot say just because the United Nations. Who said that the United Nations is a credible institution?
Adam Curry:
[Laughing]
Clip (Barbara Walters):
Who says that the United N--
Clip (Bashar al-Assad):
Who said. We-we-we know that they have the double standard in the world, in the United States policy and the United Nations that's controlled by the United States in voice. So it has no credibility. So, it's about evidences and documents. Whenever they have that,we can discuss it. Just to discuss the report that we don't see any reality related to it. It's just a waste of time.
Clip (Barbara Walters):
You do not think that
Clip (Barbara Walters):
the United Nations is a credible organisation?
Clip (Bashar al-Assad):
No. For one reason, they haven't implemented, ah, they never implemented any of the resolution that related to the Arab world. For example, to the Palestinians, to the Syrian land. Why don't they? If they talk about the human rights, what about the Palestinians suffering in the occupied territory? What about my land and my people that left their land because it is occupied by Israel? Of course not.
Clip (Barbara Walters):
You have a--
Clip (Bashar al-Assad):
For every citizen, it's not for me as President. I'm telling you about the, the perception in the whole region.
Clip (Barbara Walters):
You do not think the United Nations is credible?
Clip (Bashar al-Assad):
No. Never. It's not something, you're before my generation.
Clip (Barbara Walters):
Ah.
Clip (Bashar al-Assad):
It's something we inherited as a concept, as belief.
Clip (Barbara Walters):
You have an ambassador--
Clip (Bashar al-Assad):
Yes.
Clip (Barbara Walters):
--to the United Nations.
Clip (Bashar al-Assad):
Yeah. It's a game we play.
Adam Curry:
[Laughing]
Clip (Bashar al-Assad):
Doesn't mean you believe it.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, it's a little game we play. So,
John C. Dvorak:
Which is a fact. And, of course
Adam Curry:
Yah!
John C. Dvorak:
We just mentioned earlier in the show about the, the United Nations voting, you know, a million to two [1,000,000 vs. 2] to get the US to stop their embargo in Cuba,
John C. Dvorak:
and they said, "we just tell 'em to shove it".
Adam Curry:
Assad, although, um, I do believe what he's saying, this is terrorist attacks taking place, but
John C. Dvorak:
Well and the expert from London says it's just, it's the Muslim Brotherhood trying to, ah,
Adam Curry:
Do their job.
John C. Dvorak:
seek revenge. On this thing that--
Adam Curry:
And they're doing their job. They're doing their job. They have to blow up the pipelines. However--
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah well they're doing a good job.
Adam Curry:
So even though Assad is telling the truth here, he's a player. He's a player in the game, and he lets it slip in this clip.
Clip (Barbara Walters):
So, what's the biggest misconception? Why is this misconception - and you are saying the country is stable, we have some factions, what's the misconception?
Clip (Bashar al-Assad):
Who's the foreign, who is the most of the world? Most of the west, you mean?
Clip (Barbara Walters):
Not just the west, Turkey--
Clip (Bashar al-Assad):
They are not [inaudible]
Clip (Barbara Walters):
No, but Turkey, Jordan,
Clip (Bashar al-Assad):
But that is not most of the world.
Clip (Barbara Walters):
But that's not the west. The members of the Arab League. They are saying to you, they are imposing sanctions. Some of them are telling you to step down. These are your neighbors.
Clip (Bashar al-Assad):
There's agenda, for those countries. It's not, it's political game. It's not because they don't care about the killing, they don't care about democracy, most of these countries, they have agenda. Not going to talk about it now, I'm not going to talk about their agenda.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, not going to talk about the agenda. Because he's in on the game.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, obviously.
Adam Curry:
But again, this is not just about countries. This is- and so, this'll relate back to your question about the British and MI6, you can't see it just as the British and MI6. It's the corporations,
Adam Curry:
BP has their, has their own agenda. Ah, ExxonMobil has their own agenda. Shell has their own agenda. So, whoever has the right people in the right place, this is corporate. The-- the governments.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, Chevron and Unocal are also players,
Adam Curry:
Yes.
John C. Dvorak:
and also Gazprom, whoever it is, out of Russia.
Adam Curry:
So, so, ah, obviously.
John C. Dvorak:
Wait wait, before you go on, with this
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
I want to throw another, just another wrench into the works.
Adam Curry:
OK.
John C. Dvorak:
So, while there's a bunch of this propagandizing going around,
John C. Dvorak:
especially on, you know, the news shows about this Syria action, and you see pictures of Hillary in the UN, and by the way, she does not look good.
Adam Curry:
No. No.
John C. Dvorak:
All of a sudden, out of the blue, comes Brzezinski.
Adam Curry:
[Laughing]
John C. Dvorak:
Your buddy.
Adam Curry:
My pal. [Laughing] Yeah. Just listen. Is that the cue here?
John C. Dvorak:
Well I mean, I just, I didn't know what to make of these two clips that I picked. I mean, essentially he always keeps going back to, to world governance.
John C. Dvorak:
Which, again is code for, ah, let, we want to get in on this action too.
Adam Curry:
Uhuh.
John C. Dvorak:
You know, it's the elites. 'Cause what you're describing is a huge, multi-trillion dollar money making scheme.
Adam Curry:
Yes.
John C. Dvorak:
Which would make sense, that people would want to get in on it. But he's trying to, he's making assertions and, ah, other commentary that, ah, I think it just doesn't sound right, but in the, in the meta view that you're giving us, it actually makes a little sense.
John C. Dvorak:
And I don't know which one of these to play first, but play "lost it" first.
Clip (Zbigniew Brzezinski):
...collectively face the problems the world faces.
Clip (Speaker 1):
[Interviewer] One of those is to, is to, I think in your term, is to expand the west. To include places like Russia and Turkey.
Clip (Zbigniew Brzezinski):
Absolutely. I think that it's in the vital interests of the west to do so. And I think that drawing in Turkey, drawing in Russia, would greatly increase the vitality of the west.
Clip (Zbigniew Brzezinski):
And after all, the Turks, in the course of the last hundred [100] years, have demonstrated a determination to be modern, secular, and democratic. So they're really part of our values system. In Russia today, we see for the first time the emergence of something we can call a 'civic society.'
Adam Curry:
OK. So what's happening is he is, and we're going to put names to these eventually. We will be able to figure it out.
John C. Dvorak:
And by the way, he is on that side of the equation.
Adam Curry:
Oh yes, no, we're going to be able to figure it out.
Adam Curry:
'Cause what he is saying is: Russia. Turkey. Europe. That's the way it should go. And I'm just going to relate that to the pipelines. Because there is the south stream, there's the blue stream, there's all these pipelines that run through Turkey. So he wants, Turkey, Turkey, Turkey, Turkey, Turkey. How many times has Hillary Clinton been to Turkey? She's been trying that too.
John C. Dvorak:
And by the way, let me give you something on this meme he just said. He said that it's a modern, secular, democratic..
Adam Curry:
Yes.
John C. Dvorak:
For the last hundred [100] years. They have been fighting this, the public in Turkey are fighting it.
Adam Curry:
Fighting it.
John C. Dvorak:
And he says they share our values system? They are a hundred percent [100%] Muslim society that would love to go Shariah. They don't share any -- that's bull crap. Yeah, the elites do, but this is not, this is a, the only, I was thinking when I first saw this, before I'm starting to think about this other thesis, was is he, this guy, has he not been to Turkey recent;y?
Adam Curry:
[Laughs]
John C. Dvorak:
Has he not been to the Istanbul airport? I mean, it's just short of having goats in it.
Adam Curry:
[Laughs]
John C. Dvorak:
I mean it is, all the women are covered up and it's just a very extreme,
John C. Dvorak:
You'd think that you were in, ah, Saudi Arabia.
Adam Curry:
Well there, there are a lot of places in Turkey where, you know, the burkas come off and the girls go crazy. I mean there is some--
John C. Dvorak:
Well actually in Istanbul, the party section--
Adam Curry:
Yes. Istanbul.
John C. Dvorak:
--there is beyond compare. I have to say, they know how to party in Turkey.
Adam Curry:
They do.
John C. Dvorak:
And I'm not saying that's not true.
Adam Curry:
They do.
John C. Dvorak:
But that can end at the drop of a hat with one new government. And I'm, I just don't see that, what he's seeing. I think it's just the opposite.
Adam Curry:
Well Turkey is obviously against the whole Israeli thing. In fact, Turkey-
John C. Dvorak:
They'd have to be.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, I mean, they're saying,
Adam Curry:
Hey, Cyprus, you know, we, that's our territory. You can't have that. You know they've had, there's been, this is a whole history of Cyprus and Turkey. But again, just, and if you haven't seen it yet, please go to pipelines dot curry dot com [http://pipelines.curry.com]. You'll see where all of this is headed and the shortest route from all of this wonderful resource, ah, replacing nuclear energy, going right into Europe.
Something very interesting happened though, during the, ah, a recent spokes-hole, Carney press event.
Adam Curry:
So he is delivering the me-, before he gets asked the question by Jake. I like Jake, because he's kind of compromised but he always comes up with a great question. And, ah, and so he's saying look, we don't really have any official reports on what's happening in Syria. You know, so what is really, do you guys have anyone there? Do you know what's happening in Syria? which is kind of like a softball for Spokes-hole Carney to lob it in and tell you how horrible, and the crimes against humanity, and then something very funny happens.
Adam Curry:
But first the setup with Jake and the Spokes-hole.
Clip (Jake Tapper):
And, ah, just to follow up on the Syria question from earlier with Nora, did, um, there have been reports that because of all that's going on in, I think it's Homs, um, the, uh
Adam Curry:
I think it's Homs. Yeah, really dude, you think so?
Clip (Jake Tapper):
There was a hospital that lost power and a number of premature babies died-
Adam Curry:
There we go, there's the premature babies again! Incubators. We're back. We got it.
Clip (Jake Tapper):
--as a result. I don't know if that's a true story or not
Clip (Jake Tapper):
Obviously in situations like this there are a lot of rumors. Does the White House--
Adam Curry:
By the way, rumors in the general media have now been replaced by bloggers. Bloggers and Youtubers. This is, this is the big trick in the media. So instead of saying "we heard rumors", no, "we have a blogger there" or a Youtuber. This is very important for media assassination.
Clip (Jake Tapper):
--know anything about the extent of the violence, factually, what's going on?
Adam Curry:
Factually!
Clip (Jake Tapper):
Assuming we have people on the ground there to a degree or another, are we monitoring exactly what is happening?
Clip (Jay Carney):
Well. I can say that we have all here seen the reporting and some of the hor-
Adam Curry:
No. There's no reporting. We see Youtube videos.
Clip (Jay Carney):
--rific video images--
John C. Dvorak:
There's no reporting. Absolutely.
Clip (Jay Carney):
-- of the escalation of violence that's taking place in Syria. Um. Over the last few days. And it's clearly resulted in the deaths of hundreds of civilians --
Adam Curry:
Clearly. Clearly resulted in the deaths of hundreds of! Clearly!
Clip (Jay Carney):
Um. And been accompanied by troubling statements from senior regime officials who have pledged, quote, "to cleanse the country from renegades and outlaws."
Adam Curry:
Oh, cleanse! There you go, nice little genocide meme.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
Throw it in there. Pour it on, Carney.
Clip (Jay Carney):
Um. That is hardly reassuring and only, ah, reinforces the fact that the Assad regime --
Adam Curry:
Fact!
Clip (Jay Carney):
--is engaged in a brutal campaign to slaughter its own people.
Adam Curry:
That's exactly [spluttering] He's Hitler! It's a fact!
Adam Curry:
He's just engaged to slaughter, slaughter, like cattle.
Clip (Jay Carney):
Ah, people that has, this process began when the Syrian people peacefully demonstrated in support of reform and, ah, transition to democracy.
Adam Curry:
Bull crap!
Clip (Jay Carney):
So I, you know, I don't have any details to impart to you on the... kinds of information we might have with regards to what's happening in Syria, beyond the news reports, but the news reports are bad enough.
Jingle:
[clears throat] Bull shit.
Adam Curry:
The news reports are bad enough.
Adam Curry:
Then something really funny happens. There's a Russian reporter. I don't know how he got in. But Carney is not loving this guy. [Laughs] And the Russian reporter is calling bull crap on Carney from the beginning. And he winds up finally asking his question which Carney just completely ignores, but it's a beau-- I don't know, but something wrong happened. Something went horribly wrong, and this guy snuck into the White House press corps. He is Alex. Alex from Russia press.
John C. Dvorak:
That'll be the last time you'll see him, by the way.
Adam Curry:
Oh yeah.
Adam Curry:
No, this guy, this guy, he's dead now. Already. He does. I don't think the guy lives.
Clip (Jay Carney):
... believes they were the right decisions. Andrey.
Adam Curry:
Andrey. That's his name.
Clip (Andrey):
Ah, back to Syria please.
Clip (Jay Carney):
M-hm.
Clip (Andrey):
Of course, the Russians and probably the Chinese too, say that they are not supporting the Syrian regime. What they are supporting is the international legal regime. The international legal norms. That they exist in relations between states. They do not want anyone,
Clip (Andrey):
including the United States, to break a regime they don't like, ah, incite rebellion against that regime, apply, you understand what I am talking about.
Adam Curry:
So it may be hard to hear. What he's saying, the reason the Russians didn't want to join in on the veto is because they follow international law, which is like don't meddle with another count-- of course it's bull crap, but don't meddle with another country's business. Just stay out. You know what I'm saying, Spokes-hole Carney, right?
Clip (Andrey):
Basically, what you just presented to us,
Clip (Andrey):
was a rhetorical, political even economic aggression against that regime. My question is very simple. What are the specific legal grounds on which you do this?
SFX:
Phone ringing.
Adam Curry:
Very good question. What are the specific legal grounds on which you can go and place sanctions, and try, and threaten an entire country, like Syria. What are the legal grounds?
Clip (Andrey):
You basis is a resolution.
Clip (Jay Carney):
I would refer you to the United Nations, to our
Adam Curry:
Keh!
Clip (Jay Carney):
mission there,
Clip (Jay Carney):
and to the State Department.
Adam Curry:
No, the President is saying this, dude. You're supposed to say it!
Clip (Jay Carney):
What you saw and what you see today is a broad international consensus against the behavior of the Assad regime.
The brutal
Adam Curry:
Brutal!
Clip (Jay Carney):
killing of the Syrian people. We think that's wrong.
Adam Curry:
wrong.
Clip (Jay Carney):
And we agree with many of our partners and allies around the world and in the region when we say that.
Clip (Jay Carney):
Again, the images that we've seen just this weekend
Adam Curry:
He's struggling now like, "Aww man, how did this guy get in? Let me get back to the images!"
Clip (Jay Carney):
..demonstrate that the kind of behavior being carried out by the Syrian forces under the control of the Assad regime is vile and unacceptable. So, that is why we supported The United Nations Security Council Resolution and it's why we'll continue to work with our allies and partners to further isolate and pressure the Assad Regime.
Clip (Jay Carney):
To allow the Syrian people an opportunity to choose their own future.
Adam Curry:
UGH!
Clip (Jay Carney):
That's the approach we'd take.
Adam Curry:
Okay. Andrey's not done ..
Clip (Andrey):
Just one question I wanted to ask you, to remind you, that lynching, lynching-
Adam Curry:
He says "lynching"
Clip (Andrey):
is illegal in the United States. You need to have a court of law. But I will not ask about that. I will ask you about.. Can you tell me..
Clip (Jay Carney):
Andrey I feel like that might be 1982, and it's, uh...
Clip (Andrey):
Lynching a big dilemma. Many like-minded people form a posse, hunt somebody down...
Clip (Jay Carney):
Andrey, do you have a question?
Adam Curry:
[Snickers]
Clip (Andrey):
I have a question. The question is: can you assure me that there are not working inside Syria through your special forces, whatever it is? Working military?
Adam Curry:
So he's saying "Can you assure me that there are no special forces from the United States working inside Syria to stir up this crap and blow up the pipelines, can you assure me that?"
Clip:
I'm sorry, what's the question?
Adam Curry:
[chuckles]
Clip:
Is the United States... can you tell that the United States is not taking any military steps to [inaudible]
I think we made it very clear that we are pursuing a political and diplomatic course with regards to Syria, and we will continue to do so.
John C. Dvorak:
Wow.
Adam Curry:
So he doesn't answer the question!
John C. Dvorak:
No. Actually he did answer it by not answering. He couldn't say no'
Adam Curry:
That would be a big fat lie because we're there!
Adam Curry:
We're part of this! We have promised Israel to do this. We have promised.
John C. Dvorak:
That's why they voted for .. that's why they made this idiotic vote when they have no concerns about Cuba to vote with us on that [laughing] stupid Resolution
Adam Curry:
[laughing] Yeah. exactly..
John C. Dvorak:
[inaudible] Israel, we vote no!
Adam Curry:
And Iran, by the way, ships gas to Turkey as well.
John C. Dvorak:
Well there's an interesting.. let's go back again. Go back to Serl,
John C. Dvorak:
oh not Serl, but Seale
Adam Curry:
Uh huh ..
John C. Dvorak:
And the summary that you started to play because this is kind of interesting because it's quite likely when this is over ... or you can figure it out ... but it's quite likely that all this action about Iran has something to do with this.
Adam Curry:
Now is this the Middle East Security or the What's really going on with Syria?
John C. Dvorak:
The one "Middle East Security Summary"
Adam Curry:
Yes, okay.
John C. Dvorak:
.. Because you played the other one. And because it's possible that we're kinda missing the point of Iran, too.
Adam Curry:
Oh, yeah!
Adam Curry:
Oh, yeah! Oh yeah, no. I think this is--
John C. Dvorak:
But listen to this. Listen to this theory this guy has.
Adam Curry:
OK. Good.
Clip:
... disputes going on in the opposition. Some say we must cooperate with the Muslim brothers, others say, "no." Some say we must seek external intervention, others say "no." Some say we need a dialogue, I believe dialogue is the only way out of this and indeed the Russians have suggested to both sides to come to Moscow and start a dialogue, but the opposition says, "No, we can't dialogue with Bashar al-Assad"
Clip:
"He must be toppled first". Well, that's a dangerous, a dangerous position to adopt. Now, Saudi Arabia is the Arab world's heavyweight. It is the great financial powerhouse. It doesn't particularly like Iran. It thinks, sees Iran as a regional competitor. It's frightened of Shia power. The fact that Shias have come to power in Iraq, as well, and so it would rather like to contain Iran.
Clip:
However, there are some Saudis, some senior Saudis who understand that Saudi Arabia and Iran are really partners. They, they share
Adam Curry:
Yes.
Clip:
a responsibility for the security of the Gulf region
Adam Curry:
Yes!
Clip:
and they should start a security dialogue. That's what they need to do, rather than being dragged in to this quarrel between Is-- between the United States and Israel on one hand, and Russia and China on the other.
Adam Curry:
Yes. The new energy order has made the Iranians and the Saudis uh, natural allies.
Adam Curry:
Now everyone is, has, is against Israel. Because Israel's got the mother lode. And these guys are sitting like, "wait a minute, we're here in the fricken sand, and these guys are going to be sitting in the catbird seat. They're exporting everything. We gotta like, work together here."
John C. Dvorak:
And, the way to keep that from happening is to keep sabre rattling, claiming that they got nukes, because it's been said in many, and we've seek a couple of these, ah, security,
John C. Dvorak:
uh, sessions on C-SPAN, where they talk about, ah, you know, the real problem, even though we now assume cause all the security agencies claim or say, all of them, say that Iran's not, uh, Iran's not working on any sort of nuke.
Adam Curry:
No.
John C. Dvorak:
But you want to make it seems so because it frightens Saudi Arabia because of, if Iran actually got a nuke, every other country would have to get one because they're afraid these guys are nuts because of the Shiite thing.
John C. Dvorak:
But the fact, as this guy expressed, is those two countries are maybe what's--, this is just to keep them from ever getting together by, by
Adam Curry:
Right.
John C. Dvorak:
scaring everybody with this bull crap.
Adam Curry:
Exactly.
John C. Dvorak:
"Ooh, you know, Israel's going to bomb 'em. Ohh, we're going to have to go in. Bomb, bomb, bomb. Bomb." And they all of our candidates, except for Ron Paul who seems to be the only one that would love to just back out of this deal.
Adam Curry:
[Laughing] Yeah. They're all, they're all
John C. Dvorak:
He's the only one that's honest about it. These other guys are just full of it.
Adam Curry:
Well they've probably got back end deals, dude.
Adam Curry:
Do you know, I mean, if you, if you, if you look--
John C. Dvorak:
Oh yeah. What am I thinking. Hello.
Adam Curry:
Hello.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, Ron Paul's seventy six (76). He's set for life. He doesn't care.
Adam Curry:
Noble Energy. Noble Energy is the one to look out for. By the way, in Iran, we have, you know, we've had all kinds of things happening. Little, ah, terrorist attacks, little explosions. I'm reading from a report, August twelfth last year (2011-08-12), "An explosion Friday at a gas pipeline that runs from Iran to Turkey has disrupted gas exports."
Adam Curry:
"The explosion occurred early in the morning as part of the pipeline that is Turkish territory near the border with Iran. This is happening on a, on an increasing level. And we can apply, I'm thinking now, john, yes Europe is in trouble, absolutely. But when you put together, and by the way, this is what tipped me off with one of our buddies. He sent me a note, and said, I can't believe it but Standards and Poor is thinking of upgrading Greece. This is a rumor that's out there, and this was on Bloomberg.
Adam Curry:
...That they're gonna upgrade Greece. But when you understand that the CEO and President of the, if it isn't already one hundred percent privatized, the soon-to-be completely privatized, ah, D-E-P-A, the Greek energy company, which will handle all of this gas which they'll ship off to Europe, used to work at Standards and Poor. This is, it's, the whole thing as an inside game! And who was it that actually screwed up Greece? Goldman Sachs! So Goldman Sachs puts in a Goldman guy.
Adam Curry:
He's right at the head. The minute this guy's in, oh! All of a sudden, Greece and Israel, they're visiting each other, we're hanging out, yay, we're having discussions. Italy, Goldman guy. Why? Because it has to go from Greece, to Italy, to Europe. They're comp -- it's -- these are warring corporations. Corporations, I tell you. Not countries, corporations. It's crazy. We just have to figure out which ones so we can invest in them and ride the gravy train.
John C. Dvorak:
That's what I've been looking up, this stuff,
Adam Curry:
Yes!
John C. Dvorak:
I'm looking and I said well, Noble's already got rights,
Adam Curry:
They're, no, they're -- it's a hundred bucks [100 USD] already. You can't get in to them.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, it was down to like fifty [50] but now it's a hundred [100].
Adam Curry:
Yeah. You can't get in to those guys.
John C. Dvorak:
Although you never know. I mean, it' hard, yeah, you got, there's probably two or three of these players that you can sneak in on.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
Well, that was investment opportunities.
Adam Curry:
[Laughing]
John C. Dvorak:
That's what this show is about.
Adam Curry:
So anyway, that's what I, this is what I've been spending my week on. And the more I look at it, and, you know, the more it's just like, oh, this makes sense. The whole Arab Spring, it was about stopping the gas to do, --
Adam Curry:
'cause you can't have gas coming in from everywhere. Then, you know, gas becomes so cheap that you can't make any money on it. Syria, by the way,
John C. Dvorak:
And by the way, also, this explains why we've done nothing about Bahrain, Qatar, any of these other countries
Adam Curry:
Not interesting!
John C. Dvorak:
with Arab Spring,
Adam Curry:
No gas!
John C. Dvorak:
real Arab Spring action.
Adam Curry:
Yes! No gas, no interest. No gas, no care. N-G-N-C. That's your hashtag. No gas, no care. You got no gas, I don't give a crap about you. You're not important. But think about, and this is my crackpot-tery,
Adam Curry:
think about Fukushima. All of this happened after this discovery. "Hey man, what are we going to do about these nuclear plants?" "Well I tell you what, why don't we make it really scary and really dangerous and then there'll be more demand for gas."
Japan can't get enough gas. India. Israel is already putting deals together to ship their gas to India. India's freaking out. They need gas. Who's going to send it? Israel. They're doing deals right now. I've got all of the, it's all in the shownotes. Three eight one dot nashownotes dot com [http://381.nashownotes.com]
John C. Dvorak:
You know, you'd think with the food they eat, they'd have all the gas you'd ever need.
Adam Curry:
Hm!
Hold on.
SFX:
Ding!
Adam Curry:
Two! [Laughing] Simultaneous dingage! So, but, I just look at the Arab Spring, I'm like, it makes so much sense, John.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, no, this is good. I think this analysis, we should just keep this as our basis for watching this action going on in Syria and elsewhere. Um.
Adam Curry:
And we've gotta, we've gotta be able to put the corporate names to the shills. So, Hillary Clinton, we know she's in with Noble.
Adam Curry:
Um. And even Bill Clinton came out and started yapping about that. So they're, you know, they, but we know that the Clintons really work for the Bushes. And this is a Houston firm, so duh. Really simple. But also the Far East Energy Corporation, which is owned by the Chiners. They're also involved. And I think they're in the Clinton-Bush camp. I'll just say, you know, Clinton-Bush-Obama. 'Cause it's not Obama, it's whoever's running the show with him. Because he, immediately-
Adam Curry:
The first company! The first company to, to, get offshore drilling in the Gulf. Noble Energy. Never heard of 'em. Guess where they have connections. You're gonna love it. Switzerland. Zug. Zug, Switzerland. Glencore. Marc Rich. Clinton.
SFX:
Ding!
Adam Curry:
Connect all those dots. And I think if we just keep this in mind, you and I, 'cause we'd kind of gotten away from it, 'cause we'd overlooked the gas thing. You know, I was like "gas, yeah whatever." I had no idea. And we had actually discussed this Leviathan field.
Adam Curry:
But we had never thought about the implications. And now going back, and I actually did a lot of the search on my, I have one of those YaCy search engines, so it filters out all of the bullcrap from Google. It just gives you kind of sparse results. Man, I found so many amazing articles about how huge problems had been predicted between Lebanon and Iran and Israel, because of this gas.
Adam Curry:
And the maritime borders, and who really owns it. And again, that's why you get the Laws of the Sea. That's what Hillary Clinton has been spearheading herself. Well, you know, this is who really owns it, and this belongs to them, and then Cyprus, and then you know, so but it's corporations. Because you have Russians who want to ship the gas, ah, through the Arab pipeline. And you have Russians who are in Cyprus and want to get it from Israel. And it could be the same guys, for all I know. It's just the heads, they don't give a crap. And they don't give a crap about people.
John C. Dvorak:
Well they just don't want anybody else getting it. That's the problem.
Adam Curry:
Of course, of course. And this totally, now, now for once, I can say yeah. Israel is really important. For douchebags! Who are, who are on the take.
John C. Dvorak:
So let's take a break and, ah,
Adam Curry:
Yes
John C. Dvorak:
For the moment, and then we'll get back to it.
Jingle:
I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah. That'd be fab. Yeahhh, on No Agenda.
Adam Curry:
Huh! Huh!
Jingle:
In the morning.
John C. Dvorak:
We want to thank some people who appreciate this kind of insight, because nobody uh, you're not going to get anybody talking about this stuff.
Adam Curry:
Well, we would have been interrupted.
John C. Dvorak:
Michael Voss in Evergreen, Colorado. A hundred and twenty one dollars twelve cents [121.21 USD] . Which is, is that.. one, two, yeah, it's a Palindrome.
Adam Curry:
We would have been interrupted at least five times, maybe more, by commercials. So we would have lost our train of thought, and it wouldn't have worked. You would have switched away and gone and listened to---
John C. Dvorak:
I was watching the, ah, the Democracy Now show where I picked up a couple of things, including a clip I got later.
John C. Dvorak:
Ah, and it was just terrible because at the end, this guy's got on a roll and she says well, "you got one minute left because we're done". You know.
Adam Curry:
[Laughing] Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
The guy had to rush through his argument in one minute.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
And then they had to kill the show.
Adam Curry:
Yeah. It always kills it.
John C. Dvorak:
This doesn't work.
Adam Curry:
No!
John C. Dvorak:
This is why it has to be done the way we're doing. And that's hwy we have to thank Jason Do-zi-yay, or Dozier, in Kansas City, Kansas. Hundred and eleven dollars thirteen cents. (USD 111.13). Also, ah, this is Alexandra Denison,
John C. Dvorak:
in New South Wales. "Hi guys, I'm making this contribution as a Valentine's gift for my boyfriend, Peter Dobson. The guy is a huge! No Agenda fan. While I typically shun all things Hallmark, I am happy to make an exception donating to you guys. You are pretty great, not sure why I haven't donated sooner. Certainly this won't be the last."
Adam Curry:
[Laughing]
John C. Dvorak:
Hundred dollars and twenty four cents [100.24 USD].
Adam Curry:
Alright, thank you very much.
John C. Dvorak:
Well that's our tenth female listener.
Anonymous Hillbilly in Elkins, West Virginia. Hundred dollars [100 USD]. "I'm probably, ah, hm,"
John C. Dvorak:
"I can't give more than the IRS is now garnishing my wages for work."
Adam Curry:
Oh boy.
John C. Dvorak:
This, is, oh, guy
Adam Curry:
You know, we could put a garnish on your wages and take the money directly every, ah, every month if you want.
John C. Dvorak:
Jeez.
Adam Curry:
Happy to do that.
John C. Dvorak:
Poor guy.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
Ah, OK, now you're going to have to pronounce this, 'cause I got a...
Adam Curry:
Oh, wait a minute. Karma shot for him. He wanted some karma.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, give him a karma shot. I'm sorry
Jingle:
You've got karma.
Adam Curry:
An anti-wage garnish karma shot.
John C. Dvorak:
That was a hundred dollars [100 USD]. Now we have Pier, it looks like Hasselstrom.
Adam Curry:
Euhhh...
John C. Dvorak:
In Stockholm.
Adam Curry:
It's Per. Per Hasselstrom.
John C. Dvorak:
Per. Per Hasselstrom.
Adam Curry:
Hasselstrom. Per.
John C. Dvorak:
In Stockholm. A hundred dollars [100 USD].
Thomas Casey in Rotterdam. A hundred dollars [100 USD]. After. Hm. Doesn't sound like a Dutch name. "After the producer with the cerebral palsy donating, I could no longer live with being a douchebag."
Adam Curry:
Let me give him a de-douching for that.
Jingle:
You've been de-douched.
Adam Curry:
Yeah. Absolutely. That's why he did it. So that you would feel that way, and we appreciate it on both ends.
John C. Dvorak:
Clinton, yeah exactly, Clinton Latham in Saint Peters, Missouri. A hundred dollars [100 USD]. He who shall not be named, in Port Jefferson, New York. Ninety nine dollars [99 USD]. Sir Steven E. Taft, to you. Marietta, Georgia. Eighty eight forty three [88.43 USD]. Double nickels on the dime [55.10 USD] to celebrate Magnus Racing's GT race win in the twenty four hours at Da-- excuse me -- Daytona, and thirty three dollars and thirty three cents [33.33 USD] as a third attempt to get an Official Podcast License.
Adam Curry:
[Don't know what] went wrong. Well, I'm going to put it in right now.
John C. Dvorak:
I'm getting ready to drop my two monthly PayPal donations in favor of a single auto-generated check.
Adam Curry:
Yes.
John C. Dvorak:
It's only twenty dollars [20 USD] a month but I'm just an old retired knight sharing what I have to keep the best podcast in the universe going. Your humble servant, Sir Steven, Black Knight of the Drones.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, and I just want to say, I have, since we need to talk about it every show, essentially, PayPal drops your recurring donations. They drop it. And they'll give you some bull crap thing like, well, the credit card couldn't be used. And we have people saying, this credit card is good, I have used it continuously, there's no problem,
Adam Curry:
and if they can't process a payment for whatever reason, they just cancel the recurring subscription. So if you have one, please check on it.
John C. Dvorak:
Yes, please.
Brian Wright in Pasadena, Maryland. "Dear John, time for some value-for-value. I have been listening to the best podcast int he universe since the first show and it's about time I became a donor not a boner. Could you de-douche me please?"
Adam Curry:
Absolutely.
Jingle:
You've been de-douched.
John C. Dvorak:
They also have a son, Lane. He's going to be on the birthday segment. He just turned sixteen this past February sixth.
John C. Dvorak:
Is a huge! fan of the show. I'm also donating because I would hate for the show to go back to once a week. I need my weekly two to the head. Thanks for all you do and keep up the great work.
Now this one is a mess on my screen, but it's Hans Jorge Schultz, I beleive.
Adam Curry:
Yes.
John C. Dvorak:
In Mecklenburg, which I think is in Deutschland,
Adam Curry:
I think, I think, yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
Sixty nine sixty nine [69.69 USD]. Jeff Daley, Arlington Virginia.
Adam Curry:
Hello.
John C. Dvorak:
No comment.
Adam Curry:
[Laughs] No.
John C. Dvorak:
Arlington. Hello.
Adam Curry:
None needed. None needed.
John C. Dvorak:
Six seven eight nine [67.89 USD].
Adam Curry:
M-hm.
John C. Dvorak:
OK. Well we need more of those guys in Arlington.
Geoffrey Yurkey in Concord, California. Sixty six sixty six (USD 66.66). "Hey John and Adam, now that I am back to being a wage slave, I thought it was high time to start being a donor not a boner." Yurkey and I, by the way, worked together on remastering old vinyl.
Adam Curry:
Oh, really?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, we have quite a few things done.
"Still waiting for John and my Red Foxx fortune to come in. We're looking for the licence, we're looking for the owners of the Red Foxx Party Album's copyright.
Adam Curry:
Red Foxx, like from Sanford and Sons?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, he did a whole bunch of party records
Adam Curry:
"Lamont! Aw, massuh, I'm comin'. Lamont!"
John C. Dvorak:
Before that, he did all these cheap party records.
Adam Curry:
Really
John C. Dvorak:
Hundreds of them.
Adam Curry:
That's cool
John C. Dvorak:
And we can not find who owns the copyright because
Adam Curry:
What, you want to re-release them?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, they're hilarious
Adam Curry:
Oh, I need to de-douche him, let me do that
Jingle:
you've been de-douched
John C. Dvorak:
So, if anybody has a clue on where to get these, we'll want to license the uh, license.
Adam Curry:
That's funny. Good good [inaudible]
John C. Dvorak:
Aaron Lowdy, in Montreal, Quebec sixty-six, sixty-six [66.66 USD]. "You gentlemen deserved this value for value donation a long time ago, but alas, better late than never. I'd like to request a special shot of karma for the love of my life, Kelly. She'll be going in for jaw surgery next week and we'd like some karmic assistance for the six week recovery."
Adam Curry:
Absolutely. Here ya go. It's gonna look great, by the way
Jingle:
you've got karma
John C. Dvorak:
Brandy Ingrando, in Denver, Colorado. Donation is for Chemo Bonos...ohhh..
Adam Curry:
Bonnalick?
John C. Dvorak:
Bonna, Bonna or Bonnalike. Bonnalick or Bonnalike, for his thirty-sixth [36th] birthday on two-ten [2012-02-10]. "He loves your show, and the jingles, especially. In The Morning"
Jingle:
in the mornin'
John C. Dvorak:
"Please wish him a happy birthday." We'll put him on the list. Samantha Kost, in Stockton, California, sixty [60 USD]. We're up to a lot of women. "In The Morning, John and Adam. I wanted to send you some donation love your way and wish my amazing husband,"
John C. Dvorak:
"Joe, The Dish Slave"
Adam Curry:
Hey!
John C. Dvorak:
" A happy birthday. His birthday is on Saturday the eleventh [2012-02-11]. I know a shout-out from you guys would make his day. If you also don't mind sending some karma for him and our family, it would be greatly appreciated."
Adam Curry:
Absolutely
Jingle:
you've got karma
Adam Curry:
Love him, love the cups. The mugs, I should say. The Doug In The Morning News mug
John C. Dvorak:
Anonymous, in Sofia
Adam Curry:
Bulgaria
John C. Dvorak:
Bulgaria, yeah
Adam Curry:
A fine oil, uh gas transport company.
John C. Dvorak:
[laughs] Yeah. Owned by some private company associated with Goldman Sachs. "Hey, John and Adam, first time donor here. Thank you for all you've done. To show my support, I've started a little Tumblr blog, No Agenda Gifs.com [NoAgendaGifs.com] to propagate the formula in my own way. It's full of original content."
Adam Curry:
Oh
John C. Dvorak:
"They're pretty easy to make and you've got plenty of material to bounce off of."
Adam Curry:
Wait a minute
John C. Dvorak:
"Enjoy the mindless gifs and spread them around."
Adam Curry:
It's not workin'. It's not workin'. Does it have to be www? Maybe?
John C. Dvorak:
No, it's unusual
Adam Curry:
No, It's not working.
John C. Dvorak:
No Agenda Gifs?
Adam Curry:
No.
John C. Dvorak:
Well, ok. We'll work on that. "PS: Also as time permits, I can make hand-drawn ones like the vacation karma for Julie gif for your knights." OK, we'll work on the..I'll get a hold of her, him, sorry him
Adam Curry:
It. Oh, it's http://noagendagifs.tumblr.com
John C. Dvorak:
Oh!
Adam Curry:
They are very funny, by the way.
John C. Dvorak:
Okay.
Adam Curry:
Little animated .gifs. That's cool
John C. Dvorak:
Good, we can use 'em. Is there a cat running back and forth across the screen?
Adam Curry:
He actually has a sheep that has boots on and it says Boots On The Ground [laughs]
John C. Dvorak:
Andrew Sturgell, in Inglewood, Colorado. I want to thank him for sixty dollars [60 USD]. Also Aaron Anderson, Louisville, Kentucky, sixty dollars [60 USD].
Adam Curry:
Why?
John C. Dvorak:
With the comment: "Why? Because I love you." It says.
Adam Curry:
Oh, oh.
John C. Dvorak:
Roman Mikalovich, Mikalovich, in St. Petersburg, Russia. We don't have that many Russian..I don't think the Russians get some of this
Adam Curry:
A fine gas exporting country
John C. Dvorak:
Fifty-seven, seventy-five [57.75 USD]. "I think it would be awesome if you would mention tmradio.net. Absolutely open radio with podcasts and stuff in Russian."
Adam Curry:
Ooh
John C. Dvorak:
"Can't decide which one of you will get my valentine."
Adam Curry:
Oh, make it me, please
John C. Dvorak:
Send it to Micky or Mimi. Christina Racklee, fifty-seven, seventy-eight [57.78 USD].
John C. Dvorak:
Second Mile Productions, in Malvern, Ohio, fifty-six, seventy-eight [56.78 USD], which is odd that we have two [2] of those. "Hi John and Adam, the house hunting and travel karma worked. We found a house that seemed perfect for us. It has a few issues, but because of those issues, we may be able to get it at a better price. The house is bank owned, which could also help the price. We put in an offer and hoping to hear back this week, so I want to ask for some hopefully-the-bank-accepts-our-offer karma."
Adam Curry:
Yeah, this is from Brian and Susie Morris, where we stayed during the Hot Pockets Tour from the Second Mile Productions.
Adam Curry:
They actually followed up. The bank rejected their offer. But, they said, "As we know, karma works in strange and wonderful ways." So, they're expecting something crazy good to happen. Like a whole another house that they never even thought of. So, let me make sure that they get that unexpected karma shot.
Jingle:
you've got karma
John C. Dvorak:
So I guess we didn't get the karma in on time.
Adam Curry:
Maybe
John C. Dvorak:
Brian Rogers, Newton, New Jersey, fifty-five, fifty-five [55.55 USD]. "Why? Because, value for value."
John C. Dvorak:
Kevin Chizmar in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Double nickels on the dime [55.10 USD]. "Long-time boner, first-time donor. Could really use some Hey Citizen get-laid Karma.
Adam Curry:
[Chuckle] Okay. Let me try uh,
Jingle:
[bell] Hey Citizen, you've got-
Adam Curry:
Oops. That didn't work. Let me try again.
Jingle:
[bell] Hey Citizen, you've got karma.
Adam Curry:
There you go. Don't want to misfire.
John C. Dvorak:
Uh, Scott in Lewisburg, Virginia. Double nickels on the dime [55.10 USD].
John C. Dvorak:
"Adam's plea for money didn't move me, until he started reading the Fruit Loop voice ads.
Adam Curry:
[chuckle]
John C. Dvorak:
[laughter]
Adam Curry:
Oh! Wait a minute, wait a minute. I have new one to read. I have a new one. I found the Old Navy one.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, God.
Adam Curry:
So um, because our donations, actually if we can have it like today everyday, then two shows is good. Uh, I'm good for two shows, but we, but we promised ourselves we'd give the whole month of November to find, to make sure that
John C. Dvorak:
February.
Adam Curry:
Uh, February! Why am I saying November? February.
Adam Curry:
But the jury is still out. But to try and pick up the slack of paying the bills, I signed up with a voice agent. And, you know, they send me these voice-overs. It's made- a lot of it is for television. And by the way, when I see what they did choose on television, I'm like, "Ah. crap." I mean, "uh right. There's no way I could do that." So this one is for Old Navy, uh [chuckle] this is, this is the level I've sunk to.
John C. Dvorak:
They should pay us for playing these.
Adam Curry:
They should.
Adam Curry:
But the instructions said they wanted a Hank Kingsley-kind of voice over. You know Hank Kingsley?
John C. Dvorak:
Hey Now!
Adam Curry:
From The Larry Sanders Show. "Hey Now!" This is how low I have sunk:
Clip (Adam Curry voice audition):
This is Adam Curry. Three Scripts for Old Navy. The Perfect Puffer-izer uh, two scripts, The Perfect Puffer-izer and censor. [Deep voice] "It's the perfect weather for a perfect puff at old Navy.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh ho ho. That's enough!
Adam Curry:
[chuckles]
Clip (Adam Curry voice audition):
We are filling them just right amount of puff to keep your family looking cute and stuff.
Adam Curry:
Wait, let's do the second one, even better.
SFX:
duck call
Clip (Adam Curry voice audition):
That puff full of stuff
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
Clip (Adam Curry voice audition):
fits to puff-ection!
Adam Curry:
Please! Please! Please behove me!
John C. Dvorak:
Don't let him do this, folks!
Adam Curry:
[giggling] That's so bad.
John C. Dvorak:
All right.
Adam Curry:
I haven't gotten a single gig, by the way.
John C. Dvorak:
Some Karma for Kathy in New York. A Huntsman and Karma combo for him. So if you could do a Huntsman Karma ...
Adam Curry:
Okay
Jingle:
[Huntsman speaking Chinese]
Jingle:
You've Got Karma
John C. Dvorak:
For Spike in Hamilton Ohio, Double-Nickles-On-The-Dime [$55.10 USD]
Adam Curry:
"Hearing Adam's voice-over application has COMPELLED me to donate."
Adam Curry:
[laughing] Good!
John C. Dvorak:
"Hopefully we can keep you from going to one show a week as it will screw up my commute!"
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
"Thanks as always for the Best Podcast in the Universe."
John C. Dvorak:
Maxwell Roberts Crown Point Indiana double-nickles-on-the-dime ($55.20 USD) "I would like to give some Karma to the No Agenda fans who actually DONATE to the show and call out Scott McLaughlin as a Douchebag!"
Jingle:
Douchebag
Jingle:
You've Got Karma
John C. Dvorak:
Patrick Vaughn Traverse City Michigan
John C. Dvorak:
"The Karma from my last donation was a misfire. Please send me another karma to help me secure a new job I have been chasing. Keep up the good work. Hope to donate in the future. Save the voice talent from Adam!"
Adam Curry:
Hold on a second, Patrick. I do want to say something, Patrick, because he sent me a note about what happened.
John C. Dvorak:
[Slight slide whistle sound]
Adam Curry:
When you receive the Karma and it works, you have to acknowledge it and then don't think that Karma goes on forever. Here's what he said, "Last night my newly 18 year old so
Adam Curry:
"My newly eighteen (18) year old step-son went to a casino " 9This is AFTER they requested Karma) "for the first time. The worst possible thing happened. He won a couple of hundred dollars. A few days later he went back and walked away with one thousand dollars! Now he thinks we are all idiots for working for a living." [laughs] That's what eighteen (18) year olds do.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
"He went to a reputable sporting goods store and purchased a 1978 Russian Military Surplus Rifle"
So he got his Karma right there! A thousand bucks worth of Karma "And then he went to the gun range and after ten rounds the rifle blew apart."
John C. Dvorak:
Oh God!
Adam Curry:
"A metal cover blew off and beamed the kid right in the nose. No serious injuries and the store has quickly serviced the rifle and it's good as new now..." But he's calling his Karma a misfire. I'm going to disagree! You had your Karma right there! A thousand dollars worth of Karma. Don't go tempting the Karma!. That's not a good idea. So we'll give you another shot there as requested, but be careful with it!
Jingle:
You've Got Karma
Adam Curry:
To be used with caution and consideration.
John C. Dvorak:
Howard Abraham Rochester Minnesota. Nice Place. Fifty-five-ten [$55.10 USD] "Been meaning to donate for the past year something always came up. This week I realized it's not going to be a good time EVER. Please de-douche me and send me some anti-conversion syndrome Karma"
Adam Curry:
[laughing] Just in case
Jingle:
You've Been De-douched. You've Got Karma.
Adam Curry:
[laughing] More on that coming up!
John C. Dvorak:
I'm not quite sure what that's all about.
Adam Curry:
It's the.. it's the Le Roy thing. The conversion uh,
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, right! That.
Adam Curry:
Mass hysteria.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, well, huh.
Adam Curry:
It get's better.
John C. Dvorak:
We're not going to have too much time to discuss too much of that.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, we will. Yeah, we will.
jd-ken-medlock:
Rowville, Victoria fifty-five-ten [$55.10 USD] "Been a listener since the very first DSC, a long time No Agenda subscriber and wanted to cheer up Adam. Could use a Karma shot, and a MILF for my lovely wife of twenty [20] years as of February eighth [8th]. Phillips [unintelligible] also considers a virtual challenge coin so PONY UP SOME CASH or you will be even further in drink-debt!"
Adam Curry:
[chuckles]
Jingle:
MILF! That's one mother I'd like to [honk honk] You've Got Karma!
John C. Dvorak:
Andrew Ebrahim [phonetic] Toronto, Ontario. It might be pronounced "Abraham," fifty-four, thirty-two [$54.32 USD] Looking for a de-douching and a Karma?
Adam Curry:
Mmmm .. simultaneous, yes?
Jingle:
You've Been De-Douched! You've Got Karma!
John C. Dvorak:
He wants to call out Richard Chin for being a douchebag since he's been listening for years and hasn't donated a cent!
Jingle:
Douche Bag!
John C. Dvorak:
There you go. Calzino Vendetori [phonetic] in Saskatoon, the Paris of Canada
Adam Curry:
[chuckles]
John C. Dvorak:
Fifty-one, twenty-seven ($51.27 USD) "Hey Citizens! I just wanted to thank for your outstanding work on the Greatest Podcast In The Universe. Couldn't bear to have my weekly dose of assassination cut in half so here I am. Long time boner coming out of the woodwork! Give him a de-douching!
Adam Curry:
And a Karma shot at the same time
John C. Dvorak:
And a Karma .. combo
Jingle:
You've Been De-Douched! You've got karma!
John C. Dvorak:
He "needs to give a douchebag call out for Subterranean Zen who's been listening for a while but has yet to pay you! And a MILF call out for his wife."
Jingle:
Douchebag! MILF!
John C. Dvorak:
Ecterina Atinahsova [phonetic] from Westboro Massachusetts fifty dollars [50 USD]. Keith Jacobs in Phoenixville, Pennsylvania fifty dollars [50 USD].
John C. Dvorak:
Can you top off my Karma? My last shot- help me get a job at a local brewery!
Adam Curry:
Mm-hmm ..
John C. Dvorak:
He's going to send us some free beer.
Adam Curry:
Here it comes ..
Jingle:
You've Got Karma
John C. Dvorak:
He likes Science Friday, as a show. Dave Funk Redding California fifty dollars. Project Zenos [phonetic] Oklahoma City. Also a Happy Birthday for Arianna Happy Thirteenth (13) Birthday. SHe's a huge fan and would love to hear the Hot Pockets jingle ..
Jingle:
Ding! Hot Pockets!
John C. Dvorak:
You haven't played that for a while.
Adam Curry:
No.
John C. Dvorak:
Uh, Ken at http://Arsonomics.com , http://WhitePeopleRioting.com and http://WhitealQaeda.com
Adam Curry:
[Laughing} Nice! Yeah. That'll get us in the slammer!
John C. Dvorak:
That's gonna help. Robert Newton; fifty dollars [50 USD]. Sir David C. Pugh in North Canton Ohio; fifty dollars [50 USD]. It's a good thing you denied the Patriots some Super Bowl Karma. I was far too drunk to walk away.."
[laughing] We didn't give them Karma, and they LOST!!
Adam Curry:
Yeah! Exactly!
John C. Dvorak:
Eric Rode .. but we don't DO that! Eric Rosenbom [phonetic] in Krimpen aan de Lek
Adam Curry:
Krimpen aan de Lek, very good!
John C. Dvorak:
That means, it means "griping on the lake"
Adam Curry:
Exactly. You're correct.
John C. Dvorak:
Here is an urgent call for Karma from Gitmo Nation Lowlands. "My twelve (12) year old son Ben is forced by his mother and ex-wife to move to another town and school."
John C. Dvorak:
"Despite the fact he doesn't want to. He's got some form of autism and pdd.nos makes the moves extra bad for him. That's why I started a law suit and it's a long story. But, give him some karma and we'll deal with it"
Adam Curry:
Absolutely. I hope it all works out.
Jingle:
you've got karma
John C. Dvorak:
Cameron Smith in Whangarei, Northland
Adam Curry:
Wait, you forgot William Young
John C. Dvorak:
William Young, Lebanon, Tennessee. A regular. I guess not, says he's new. Fifty dollars [50 USD].
John C. Dvorak:
Cameron Smith, Whangarei, Northland. Likes John to say hello to Anna, beloved. Meenya Esposa Para Sempra
Adam Curry:
[giggles]
John C. Dvorak:
[laughs] He needs to get a little back. He needs some karma, that's what he really needs.
Adam Curry:
Of course, here we go.
Jingle:
you've got karma
John C. Dvorak:
Jeff Longo; Neil, Nebraska fifty dollars [50 USD]. "Hello citizen terrorist,"
John C. Dvorak:
"hope this donation doesn't end the desperate rantings and pleas for donations." Oh, okay. "It's my favorite part of the show when you make me feel guilty about listening to a free podcast."
Adam Curry:
Yeah
John C. Dvorak:
Brilliant.
Adam Curry:
[chuckle] Brilliant!
John C. Dvorak:
And finally, the Goose Hung High, Framingham, Massachusetts, fifty dollars [50 USD]. And that will be our donors for today's show. We want to thank them all. Appreciate the support, which is what you are doing. Go to noagendanation.com, noagendashow.com, dvorak.org/na, channeldvorak.com/na to continue the support in the next show.
Adam Curry:
And, of course, we do have the palindrome, the two fourteen [2-14] coming up for Valentine Day and the, if this is the level of support you can keep up for us, then we are going to be good. But, it will have to be an average for February. Otherwise, it's back to the Old Navy voice overs for me.
Jingle:
dvorak dot org slash n a [http:dvorak.org/NA
Jingle:
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Adam Curry:
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Adam Curry:
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John C. Dvorak:
No knights.
Adam Curry:
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John C. Dvorak:
Especially on somebody elses behalf
Adam Curry:
Yes. Abosolutely, absolutely. Ummmm, I've got stuff, but I think I should let you, uh, you got anything?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, I do have a couple things I wanted to just throw in there. I think there may be some continuation. The way we're handling, the country's handling and the way the news organizations are handling stuff, I still believe the CIA is got a battle going on with Obama in some way, shape or form. We had on the New York Times, this clip is NYC Writer On Syria. This is Nicholas Kristof.
Adam Curry:
Aw, the's the shill!
John C. Dvorak:
If you take a look at his Wiki page you kind of see,
John C. Dvorak:
you know, some interesting factoids about him.
Adam Curry:
He's George Clooney's handler
John C. Dvorak:
And. No, no, no, no.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
No, this is the New York Times columnist
Adam Curry:
I know who this is. Nicholas Kristof is the guy that got George Clooney interested in the whole Sentinal Project.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh that's a possibility, but this is not that creepy handler that's always with him
Adam Curry:
No, no, but he is a part of the whole deal
John C. Dvorak:
Well, whatever the case, I thought this was interesting, because he is making the claim that there is no reporting going on and that we have to be careful and I still think the CIA's against,
John C. Dvorak:
or that there's a battle going on between public opinion, what the Obama administration wants to do and what the CIA wants to do. And first, we're gonna to play this, and then I'm gonna play a Shot-Across-The-Bow clip, which tells, you know, Obama to back off
Clip:
Nick, I know you've been trying to get into Syria. What do you think about the situation involving the media there?
Clip Nicholas Kristof:
Well, I think it's really hard to galvanize international community to care about a crisis when you don't have a lot of footage coming in over television screens.
Clip Nicholas Kristof:
And there is some, uh, individuals in Syria who've been doing [an] absolutely heroic job with their cell phones and a
Adam Curry:
Heroic!
Clip Nicholas Kristof:
and capturing that video and then taking it some risk to themselves and trying to post it through in some cases the cell networks that surround the countries near the borders. Um, and, if they are caught with that, if they're caught doing that, um, they will be arrested and, and risk execution. So I, you know, boy I, I admire their courage.
Clip Nicholas Kristof:
But, in the absence, frankly of, you know CNN, the New York Times and a lot of other international media, it is a lot harder to get that kind of international critical mass of attention at the UN, in Arab League capitals and especially to create that kind of pressure on Moscow and Beijing.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, time to bring in Clooney, I say.
John C. Dvorak:
Notice there was the Moscow, Beijing thing too.
Adam Curry:
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
Which is like, okay, whatever. So, there was this weird thing that showed up on Democracy Now with Gravel Voice,
John C. Dvorak:
reading the news, about the drones being approved for small, four-pound [4 lb] drones. They're trying to make them legal in all the cities, so all the little drones can be flying outside the windows.
Adam Curry:
Yeah
John C. Dvorak:
And then she has this very funny line, because if you've ever watched that show, she just reads news items one after another with no segues. Never has a segue. First time ever, she has a segue and she says 'In other drone news'
Adam Curry:
[laughs]
John C. Dvorak:
Which I thought was, what, why is she doing a segue?
John C. Dvorak:
And then she does a CIA, essentially a CIA report, where one of the ex-CIA heads of the, military guy, you'll..he..this is a very interesting, I don't know where they got it or where they even ran it, because it just seemed like a messaging. But, play the Whole Drone Story
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Will make it easy for domestic law enforcement agencies to obtain and use pilotless surveillance drones inside the United States. According to the American Civil Liberties Union,
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the bill would require the FAA to allow police agencies to operate any drone weighing four point pounds [4.4 lbs], or less under certain conditions. Jay Stanley of the ACLU said quote, "This bill would push the nation willy-nilly toward an era of aerial surveillance without any steps to protect the traditional privacy that Americans have always enjoyed and expected." In other drone news, former
Adam Curry:
[laughing]
Clip (Amy Goodman):
CIA director Micheal Hayden has openly criticized the Obama administration's use of pilotless drones to assassinate suspected militants around the world.
Clip (Amy Goodman):
Hayden said quote, "Right now, there isn't a government on the planet that agrees with our legal rationale for these operations, except for Afghanistan and maybe Israel."
Adam Curry:
[chuckle]
Clip (Amy Goodman):
The drone program began under President George W. Bush, but has rapidly expanded under Obama. So far the Obama administration's carried out drone strikes in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Ethiopia and Libya. Hayden also criticized
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the US assassination of the US born cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, in Yemen.
Clip (Amy Goodman):
Hayden said quote, "We needed a court order to eavesdrop on him, but we didn't need a court order to kill him. Isn't that something?" He asked.
Adam Curry:
So let me say something about this. First of all, I've read the FAA - what is the actual - the FAA Bill. And everyone's kinda concerned about the drones but actually, and as an aviator I am very interested in this, of course.
Adam Curry:
This does play into our hand, John, with the Dvorak Curry Drone Corporation because what it does it is makes it illegal to fly essentially a remote-controlled airplane without a pilot's license! So you will have to get an extra add-on to your ticket. So I have .. ah .. fixed wing single engine and I have helicopter ALL rating, so I can fly a Chinook. And I can. I have. But then if you want to fly a DRONE,
Adam Curry:
or even a remote-controlled aircraft you will have to have a pilots license. So, it's actually a restriction, unless you are approved by the FAA and have taken all the tests. What this further does is it finally, and i predicted this would happen, it finally provides the FAA with the eleven billion dollars [11,000,000,000 USD] they wanted to implement the next gen uh, ATC system. So this is where - it's not about drones, but YOUR airplane; will have no pilot in it.
Adam Curry:
So, it's going to start with cargo but you're going to get on an airplane and you're going to feel [sarcasm] "so incredibly safe" because we don't have pilots on board anymore. Those pesky pilots who make all those crazy mistakes and kill you all the time. Notice though what she said in this report. She talked about a pilot-less drone and this is something that is .. that the Military Industrial Complex, and I read all of their newsletters, is all over. What she means here is an autonomous drone.
Adam Curry:
And the autonomous drone, indeed does not have a ground crew piloting it, it makes decisions based upon a terrorist profile weather to shoot and kill you or not. That is what a pilotless, it's a very key difference, because a drone is not pilotless. A pilotless drone is autonomous. And to show you how bad this will be, remember those guys who were coming from England into the US, and they put on the tweeters like "we're going to go, uh, destroy America."
Adam Curry:
What happens is, is these systems that are trailing, and basically, sniffing Twitter all the time see "Destroy America," it immediately connects to the persons name which thank you very much Twitter, immediately, I'm sure they have an API into Twitters database sends it right over to the border control and they stop the guy because no one actually read the tweet. That was automatic. Autonomous systems are very, very dangerous.
Adam Curry:
Finally. The good news is, John: This will clear the way for our game show.
John C. Dvorak:
What game show is that, Adam?
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Adam Curry:
That's right, now that we're official and we have a pilots license. The Dvorak-Curry Drone Corporation can go on out, and we'll be the only ones exclusively to play.... To play, Win, Lose, or Drone.
John C. Dvorak:
So, uh, I would recommend the movie Robocop, the first one.
Adam Curry:
Yes [chuckle]
John C. Dvorak:
which has the element in it with the automated, uh, kinda drone, they're not flying drones, but they're drones as it were.
Adam Curry:
Right
John C. Dvorak:
Then, I want to go back and mention, re-mention, the Hayden commentary on drones, the ex-CIA guy who the most military one of late. He actually came out of the military. Uh, Patreaus is too obviously.
But, uh, I just thought it was weird that he would make these statements about the illegality of these dronings.
Adam Curry:
No, well of course.
Adam Curry:
But, there's a lot going on with.. the REAL problem with all of this is that this is ... it's not enough money. These drones are really efficient. You can get a nice drone that can shoot off some missiles for about ten - fifteen million dollars [$10,000,000 to 15,000,000 USD] and it's just not enough people involved and all these contracts .. they don't like it.
Adam Curry:
I was watching some C-SPAN, speaking of the military industrial complex, and a guy named Frank Kendall.
Adam Curry:
He's from the Pentagon. I was blown away by this. This is the.. he's been nominated as the Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition Technology and Logistics. He was at an event called The Center for Strategic and International Studies. This is how .. this is my life. [Laughs] I'll watch what this guy has to say. It's very short. You know the Joint Strike Fighter? The F-35?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah. The one that can't land?
Adam Curry:
Yeah! That would be the one! Now the Joint Strike Fighter is like.. I don't know.. the project is highly ..
John C. Dvorak:
Didn't they put the hook in the middle of it so it can't really land on an aircraft carrier?
Adam Curry:
Something dumb like that. But it's hundreds of billions of dollars and there's all kinds of countries bought it. I know the Netherlands bought into it. Gitmo Lowlands and they PAID a lot of money for the privilege to manufacture,
Adam Curry:
I don't know, a wing tip or something. This is a huge multi-national project amongst NATO members to build this F-35. And here's what the Under Secretary Of Defence For Acquisition Technology and Logistics says about the F-35 Joint Strike fighter
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Putting the F-35 into production, years before the first test flight, was acquisition malpractice. It should not have been done. But, we did it. Okay? So now, Dr. Carter first and now, and now-
Adam Curry:
So there ya go. Malpractice. Acquisition malpractice.
Adam Curry:
Oh, thanks.
John C. Dvorak:
I like that word
Adam Curry:
Acquisition malpractice?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
Yeah. Thanks. Thanks everybody. That was your tax dollars that went into that acquisition malpractice. Anyone going to jail by any chance? ]
John C. Dvorak:
[pfffttt]
Adam Curry:
[laughs]
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ac No. No. Just bah! [frustrated sound] Makes me mad. There's a-
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
I won't play it..I'll play it on Sunday..remember those North Dakota farmers that got that drone called out on 'em?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah. Right. [chuckle]
Adam Curry:
To their cows. There's a lot..it's too long..there's a lot more to that story which I definitely want to do on Sunday.
John C. Dvorak:
There's a thing I keep forgetting to mention. J.C. has a friend living in the Ukraine.
Adam Curry:
Um huh?
John C. Dvorak:
Who is, uh, eventually going to become part of our organization.
Adam Curry:
Oh, really
John C. Dvorak:
Well, I was just saying.
Adam Curry:
Wait a minute. On the payroll. Are you cr..? What meeting was this determined in?
John C. Dvorak:
Well, You'll see. The point is that there's a rumor, a rampant rumor in the Ukraine going around that says, and this could be planted, but it's definitely going around, it says that Germany is using either British company or some Russian company, someone somewhere, to print up [together] boat loads of Deutsche Marks.
Adam Curry:
We've already talked about this a couple of times. Haven't we?
John C. Dvorak:
Aah, I dunno.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
So here's, but anyway, so there's a lot about Germany and how great the place is.
Adam Curry:
[chuckles]
John C. Dvorak:
On PBS.
Adam Curry:
Uh huh?
John C. Dvorak:
And so I ran into this really idiotic piece that was done because they've got that woman, Margaret Warner, they've sent her to Germany. And she's floatin' around and they're talkin' about, you know, how great the Germans are and how smart they are and how they export..the Germans export..a little country one-tenth our size..exports more than we do. There's a bunch of messages in these reports. But, the one I get the biggest kick out of is the one I have listed here, The Idiotic Comment
Clip (Margaret Warner):
to Germany's success lies in small to medium-sized family firms like this one,
Clip (Margaret Warner):
that manufactures some highly specialized, and indispensable piece of equipment. The Germans like to say, 'we make the thing that goes inside the thing, that goes inside the thing.'
Adam Curry:
[laughs]
John C. Dvorak:
Have you ever heard 'em say that?
Adam Curry:
[with accent] Vell, leiber das ding was gate in da dink, it was gate in the ding! Ya voll
John C. Dvorak:
I've never heard this
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Adam Curry:
[in German] Ist de tages clip!
John C. Dvorak:
So now, here's the real irony of this piece.
Adam Curry:
[laughing] Wait a minute, no no no, hold on stop. I want to hear that again
Clip (Margaret Warner):
to Germany's success lies in small to medium size family firms like this one. That manufactures some highly specialized and indispensable piece of equipment. The Germans like to say 'we make the thing that goes inside the thing, that goes inside the thing.'
Adam Curry:
Hold on a second [writing] inside-the-thing
Adam Curry:
We make the thing. How many times does she say? We make the thing
John C. Dvorak:
We make the thing that goes inside the thing that goes inside the thing. There's three [3] usages there. Three iterations
Adam Curry:
We make the thing that goes inside the thing that goes-in-side-the-thing. Okay. So, we will translate that to German...ok...and let's listen to this coming out of your BMW one of these days
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[female Google translate in German] "Wir machen das, was geht in der Sache, die geht in der Sache"
Adam Curry:
[laughing]
jd: What?!
Adam Curry:
[laughing]
John C. Dvorak:
It's not that simple
Adam Curry:
No, it's not. I like it in English better.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, it's better in English. So, here's the part that's idiotic. She's got this company, the small to medium family firm. Right?
Adam Curry:
Which company is it, please.
John C. Dvorak:
It's this company, the business is one-point-five billion [1,500,000,000]. They make that giant drill that drills holes in the ocean.
John C. Dvorak:
You know, that huge bore machine that drills, that dug out the tunnel, you know that giant..
Adam Curry:
Yeah, I know
John C. Dvorak:
Monstrous machine
Adam Curry:
That's the little family-owned company. I'm thinking cheese.
John C. Dvorak:
Family owned. Small family-owned firm
Adam Curry:
[laughing] I'm thinking cheese or something, or like-
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah! That's what I was thinking! You've seen those things, right? They're huge!
ac: Yeah, they're huge. I thought maybe it was like the company that makes the Russian Babushka dolls or something.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah. No. A one point five billion company [1,500,000,000].
Adam Curry:
The thing that goes inside the thing that goes inside the thing. [laughs] I already gave you Clip Of The Day for that. That was
John C. Dvorak:
Thank you very much
Adam Curry:
No, that was very, very good. Wow. That's just-
John C. Dvorak:
If you want to stay off topic for one more clip
Adam Curry:
Yeah, but then I gotta wrap it up with something outrageous.
John C. Dvorak:
All right, you can wrap it up..this is something outrageous.
Adam Curry:
Oh, ok.
John C. Dvorak:
So, what to you is a gun?
Adam Curry:
A gun?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, a gun. What's a gun?
Adam Curry:
You mean the definition of a gun? Or what do I think is a good gun?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, what's a gun. How would you define a gun? What's a gun?
Adam Curry:
Something that you put a bullet in and you pull the trigger and it shoots that bullet out and it can kill you, or hurt you.
John C. Dvorak:
Probably. Now, what's a fake gun?
Adam Curry:
A fake gun is exactly that only it doesn't shoot.
John C. Dvorak:
Right. But, it looks like a regular gun. Of course there's laws, for example, that if you have some sort of product that has a gun shape, you have to make it either yellow or day green, or whatever.
Adam Curry:
Right. Right. Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
So, play this Guns In School Ridiculous Report that I picked up off the TV.
Clip:
Officials at Cupertino High School say 'students should have known better.' The school went into lock down this morning after a janitor
Adam Curry:
Lock down!
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found the handle of this gun sticking out of a back pack. When sheriff's deputies arrived they quickly determined it's a Nerf gun. Apparently, thirty [30] students brought them to school to play a game called Assassin.
Adam Curry:
[laughing]
Clip:
School officials say no guns, real or fake, are allowed on campus.
Clip:
They say they plan to punish the students, but didn't provide any details.
Adam Curry:
[laughing] A Nerf gun. It doesn't even look like a gun.
John C. Dvorak:
It doesn't even look like a gun. It shoots little gob, you know, pieces of foam.
Adam Curry:
Meanwhile, President
John C. Dvorak:
And is yellow.
Adam Curry:
Meanwhile, President Obama is shooting, uh, marshmallow gun in the White House. And that's okay?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, and what is a rubber band gun also something that's illegal because it's, it's you know, a fake gun? It's not a fake gun. A fake gun looks like a gun.
Adam Curry:
How about a caulking gun?
John C. Dvorak:
This is the typical thing going on in the schools today and it's a dumbed down bunch of idiots that run these schools. Really, people, home school.
Adam Curry:
[chuckles] How about a caulking gun?
John C. Dvorak:
That's a gun. It's illegal [sputtering]
Adam Curry:
Hey, wait wait wait. How about a staple gun?
jd: Illegal!
Adam Curry:
You can't have a stapler gun?!
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Adam Curry:
What other kinds of guns can we think of. There's all kinds of groovy...a nail gun? Well, a nail gun you shouldn't probably take to school.
But the compressor is kinda hard to put in your backpack. So...
John C. Dvorak:
The whole thing is a fiasco.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, home school. I am in agreement there.
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Vaccines
Adam Curry:
I don't know if this jingle is going to make the cut.
John C. Dvorak:
I don't think so. I couldn't understand a word he said.
Adam Curry:
Vaccines
John C. Dvorak:
Oh.
Adam Curry:
Two vaccine stories for you. The first one for Haiti everybody! This is a report from your National Treasure NPR Radio
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The cholera outbreak began near a United Nations Peace Keeping base.
Clip:
Outbreak began near a United Nations peace keeping base housing Nepalese soldiers. The strain of cholera that raced across Haiti is nearly identical to the predominant strain in southeast Asia. It's widely believed in Haiti that overflowing outhouses at the UN compound were the source of the deadly outbreak. And an investigation led by French researchers drew a similar conclusion. In the coming weeks, Partners In Health, plans to launch an unprecedented, and somewhat controversial vaccination campaign against the disease.
Adam Curry:
Now, is there a vaccine that you are aware of that can stop cholera?
John C. Dvorak:
I believe so.
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John Lasher says ultimately the way to eliminate cholera from Haiti is through building water and sewage treatment systems. But, he says, that could take years.
Clip (John Lasher):
While we're waiting, we know there is a safe cholera vaccine that can help prevent People from getting cholera again.
Adam Curry:
And by the way, it's... Did you hear what he said? "While we're waiting," we have this little thing.
Clip (John Lasher):
Why wouldn't we do that?
Clip (John Lasher):
I think it would be certainly expected anywhere else in the world.
Clip:
But, the vaccination proposal has been criticized by some Haitians, and questioned by some other aid agencies. Partners In Health is planning to use a relatively new vaccine, Shanchol. Because of limited global supply of the drug as well as logistical concerns, Partners In Health is planning to only offer it to a hundred thousand (100,000) people, or just one (1) percent of the Haitian population
Adam Curry:
Sounds to me like there's a bonanza going on, John. Someone got the contract. Shanchol, which is a Swedish-made vaccine, only approved by the World Health Organization at the end of September of last year.
John C. Dvorak:
Coincidentally, the UN who infected the country.
Adam Curry:
Yeah! Thank you! World Health Organization, part of the United Nations who infected everybody. It's made by Sanofi Pasteur, a subsidiary of Sanofi Pasteur. And the company.. here it is ... was developed by the International Vaccine Institute in Seoul with support from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
Adam Curry:
Yeah. So if I could advise the people of Haiti, have them clean up your water. have them give you a decent place to poop and you might want to consider not taking the vaccine, 'cause I think Bill and Melinda Gates are out to kill you. I wouldn't trust anything that comes out of that. Certainly if not if it's administered by a syringe.
John C. Dvorak:
This is an oral vaccine.
Adam Curry:
No, that's the alternative. This is the new one.
John C. Dvorak:
Dukoral is the other one.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
The most traditional one is Dukoral.
Adam Curry:
Yeah that's the oral one. That's made by ..
John C. Dvorak:
Why wouldn't the use the more traditional one?
Adam Curry:
Money, baby, money! It's Bill and Melinda Gates. C'mon, it's money, dude!
John C. Dvorak:
All the newer ones cost a lot more money. That doesn't make sense that you'd want to spend all that extra money.
Adam Curry:
Nah, nah, nah, nah. This is a money making scam. This is money making.
John C. Dvorak:
Well they got to do something with all that money that they collected.
Adam Curry:
We got in the show ... I'm just gonna stick on vaccines for a second ... In the show notes you'll see a great new poster that you might see at your local dentist
which is promoting getting the HPV vaccine because, you know, you can now get it through your mouth..
John C. Dvorak:
Wait a minute. Hold on a second. STOP!
Adam Curry:
[Laughing] I knew you'd like that.Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
What does this have to do with dental work?
Adam Curry:
Well it's an oral, doctor, and if you're having oral sex, you can get HPV. So now you can get an HPV shot at your dentist.
John C. Dvorak:
What??!
Adam Curry:
Yes. [Laughing] One of our producers took a screenshot
ac: [laughs] I knew you'd love it. Here it is, word of mouth. HPV in the changing face of oral cancer. And there's a little Asian kid there looking all bummed out. A boy, by the way, with HPV. Oh yeah.
ac: Uh, these guys, they're - the sales guys are great!
John C. Dvorak:
Boy, they are good.
Adam Curry:
They know what they're doin'.
ac: A new guy on the scene. So whatever it is, we've tested only Gardasil. The tested Gardasil, therefore it can't be a vaccine. They didn't test any other swine flu, anything else, any other flu shots. Nothing else. "No other immunizations. We tested Gardasil because we actually have to cover over the fact that it actually was the Gardasil. Um, now they bring out this new doctor. A new expert. And uh, he is saying this is Pands', which used to be known as PANDAS. P-A-N-D-A-S. And that stands for ... um, hold on a second.
ac: I wanna give it to you so you can look it up. Uh,
John C. Dvorak:
Oh.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, here it comes. Uh, I'm looking at the revision there. Ugh! Sorry. Uh, Pediatric Autoimmune Neuropsychiatric Disorder, associated with streptococcal infections. That's what it used to be called. Now, it's just Pediatric Autoimmune Neuropsychiatric Disorder.
Adam Curry:
So, they've changed the name. But it's very important if you looked it up in the Book of Knowledge. Uh, and what that is, is it's an unknown, uh, we don't, uh... we think you get some kind of infection. And, because of this infection, then you develop, uh, Tourette's-like tics. But we really don't know too much about it - it's, uh, it's really crazy. This PANDAS disease. It's just like, who knows? It's like uh, that's what it is! According to this doctor; listen:
Clip:
Yes, Scott and Marie-Alice. This is a down-seed doctor who was called in by some parents who could not accept the initial diagnosis of Conversion Disorder.
Clip:
Dr. Rosario Trifiletti has said all along that he thinks the mystery illness in Leroy is caused by an infection. Tonight, he announced his preliminary findings due match up with that initial hypothesis. Trifiletti made his announcement tonight on the Dr. Drew Show on the cable network HLN.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, Dr. Drew.
Adam Curry:
Oh yeah. So you know it's a coverup.
Clip:
He said the girls he tested in Leroy are showing signs that they could be suffering from Pediatric Acute Neuropsychiatric Syndrome syndrome. That is known as PANS or formerly knows as PANDAS.
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It's an autoimmune disorder caused by an infection which attacks parts of the brain.
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I can tell you that, uh, they are testing positive for, uh uh uh, each one is testing for either, uh, streptococcus or mycoplasma, which are known triggers of the, uh, PANDAS/PANS syndrome.
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Now, again, Dr. Trifiletti was called in by some of the parents in Leroy who were not satisfied with the diagnosis of Conversion Disorder that they got at Dent Neurological in Amherst.
Clip:
But, the jury is still out on this. And there are some parents who are satisfied with that diagnosis. Today we heard from one Buffalo doctor who said social media might
Adam Curry:
Now, listen to this. This is where it gets really good for the cover up.
Clip:
actually aid the spread of conversion disorder. Here's what he had to say this afternoon.
Clip (Speaker 1):
When you've been exposed, also umm, through videos and uploaded images
Adam Curry:
[chuckle]
Clip (Speaker 1):
the same kind of, um, ah, phenomena, if you are a person who is vulnerable in some way,
Clip (Speaker 1):
because of your own stresses and anxieties, uh and um, in particular if you identify with that individual, I think there is a potential for that to then, you know, uh create, um ah, ah further potential spread beyond the area that was initially involved.
Adam Curry:
Okay, so this is really good. So, now, social media is spreading the disease. And by the way, when you have a British guy come on there with a, like [with accent] 'well there's evidence that social media, if you are susceptible to this.'
Adam Curry:
So what does CBS News do?
Clip:
And regarding the Leroy story, we want to tell you about something that we've decided here at Two On Your Side. The doctors involved in this case have said that 'part of the problem is that the media is constantly replaying video of these girls on the news and the stress of being on TV, even after the interviews have ended, are making things worse for them.' Well, Two On Your Side not only takes its journalism are making things worse for them.
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Well, Two On Your Side not only takes its journalism seriously,
Adam Curry:
[laughs]
Clip:
we also take our role in the community seriously
Adam Curry:
uh huh?
John C. Dvorak:
ohhh
Clip:
and if not showing the teens and their ticks will help, then we've decided until, or unless, some other diagnosis is realized, that we will not be showing the video of the girls, and their tics.
Adam Curry:
It's like, cover up. Like, oh oh, lets, we gotta, we gotta really temper this guys. So, let's see if this spreads to Dr. Drew also saying 'oh no, we can't show it because that just spreads the spreads the infection.
Adam Curry:
I was on MTV for seven and a half [7.5] years with my Tourettes. Raise your hand if it gave you Tourettes.
John C. Dvorak:
Hey. Hey. Hey!
Adam Curry:
Hey!
John C. Dvorak:
Give me the prediction. We have seen these sorts of things before, and they all have a life span and then they die in the media. And nobody talks about the resolution. It never happens.
Adam Curry:
No, off course not
John C. Dvorak:
What do you give it? A month? Two [2] weeks?
Adam Curry:
Not even. It's over. Done. No video, no story. N-V-N-S.
John C. Dvorak:
You think there'll be nothing next week?
Adam Curry:
No. No video, no story
John C. Dvorak:
By this time next Thursday. I'm putting it in the book
Adam Curry:
No, no video, no story.
John C. Dvorak:
By this time next Thursday, I'm putting it in the book!
Adam Curry:
No video, no story. No video, no story. If it bleeds, it leads. No video, no story.
John C. Dvorak:
Good point.
Adam Curry:
No video, no story.
John C. Dvorak:
I got only one last little thing, which is, I dunno, it's kinda weird.
Adam Curry:
Show us your tic, slave!
John C. Dvorak:
[Laughs] Tick, tick, tick
Adam Curry:
[Laughs]
John C. Dvorak:
You know, the Maldives guy, there was a hoonta (phonetic), a coup.
Adam Curry:
A hoonta (phonetic)? Is that like a poota?
John C. Dvorak:
This island state of Maldives.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, which used to be a nice vacation spot.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, it still probably is.
John C. Dvorak:
But they had this President, and they ousted, and there was a Coup d'état and the Vice President took over and he said "Eh, I didn't ever had a gun" but the guy, the President says, "there was a gun to my head. I have to leave." It's a bunch of bullcrap, ok?
Adam Curry:
Okay.
John C. Dvorak:
I've only run into ONE story that I've seen, I could be wrong, maybe it's around someplace else, but it's kinda like the Cuban fiftieth [50th] anniversary AGAIN!
Adam Curry:
[Giggles]
John C. Dvorak:
On Democracy Now, they covered a little factoid that I thought was Fascinating!
Clip:
In two thousand eight (2008), Nasheed became the first democratically elected leader of the Maldives, he gained international fame for his passionate warning about the dangers of climate change to low-lying islands. His reputation was tarnished after the publication of a cable by Wikileaks that suggested the Maldives signed onto the U.S.-backed Copenhagen Climate Accord in exchange for fifty million dollars (50,000,000 USD).
Adam Curry:
[Laughs] What? Hey, wait a minute, can I get some of that? Hey, hey, hey climate change, give me fifty million bucks! What?
John C. Dvorak:
Is that unbelievable?
Adam Curry:
What? And there's no uh-
John C. Dvorak:
And remember there's that period of time, too, where they're talking about, "oh, the islands are getting wiped out. Our little islands!"
Adam Curry:
Oh, wait a minute, I'm sorry, I was completely wrong, it was a misfire, this, my friends, is without a doubt-
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Clip of the day!
Adam Curry:
Yeah, I remember that, the Maldives may no longer exist. It's going to be underwater. For fifty million dollars! [Laughs]
John C. Dvorak:
For fifty million dollars, they'll say anything!
Adam Curry:
[Laughs] So will I!
John C. Dvorak:
Unbelievable.
Adam Curry:
Hell, yeah!
John C. Dvorak:
I mean, that was just a jaw dropper for me, it was, like, WHAT? A bunch of, what is this world coming to?
Adam Curry:
That is fantastic! Oh, my goodness.
John C. Dvorak:
That's why you don't want Wikileaks around!
Adam Curry:
Oh, my goodness! What a great deal. I think I will get me some of that! Well, I can't top that, man. I can't. I think Micky's been to the Maldives a couple of times on, I think she hung out with like The Prince, or his son or something.
Adam Curry:
Something weird. I'll have to get the story.
John C. Dvorak:
Would probably have to be before they elected this clown. But anyway, okay.
Adam Curry:
Wow, that's, uh, I'm blown away by that.
John C. Dvorak:
Hey, that was reported everywhere, wasn't it?
Adam Curry:
Yeah, but this little nugget, hm, interestingly enough, we don't get any reporting on that at all. How can it be? Wow.
John C. Dvorak:
Anyway.
Jingle:
33, that's the magic number.
Adam Curry:
Just code we're working on as we get out of here and we start preparing for our Sunday show, which will be the last chance to dance for your two fourteen (2012-02-14) donation, for Valentine Day, nothing says "I love you" better than a donation to No Agenda. So we don't know exactly what the code is all about, however: "Cold kills 33 more in Europe. Dam breaks in Bulgaria." So there's some reason there-
Adam Curry:
I guess that's part of the gas kabal-
John C. Dvorak:
Could be.
Adam Curry:
With the thirty-three [33]. This was actually from, was this from? Fortune Magazine, which surprised me, Forbes, I'm sorry, "The Federal Reserve has made it official. After its latest two day meetings, it has announced its goal to devalue the dollar (USD) by thirty-three percent [33%] over the next twenty [20] years."
x Ding!
Adam Curry:
Hello? That's gotta be an investment message we're not on to.
John C. Dvorak:
What the hell is that all about?
Adam Curry:
Yeah. Well, they did the calculation and, there's this, like, you know, about "increase in price level of two percent [2%]," I don't understand this stuff, I'm a Vee-Jay, I'm not an economist.
John C. Dvorak:
We're gonna look into this.
Adam Curry:
But the headline literally reads "The Federal Reserve's Explicit Goal: Devalue the Dollar Thirty Three (33) Percent." There's gotta be a lot of guys reading their morning paper going, "Oh, Martha, SHIT! There's the thirty-three [33], bitch, we gotta get in on this!
Bonanza Time!" Know what I'm saying?
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Adam Curry:
Will you please talk to Horowitz about that?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
Okay.
John C. Dvorak:
May have some, it may have something to do with propping up the Euro just by even saying this. It could be bull.
Adam Curry:
Anyway, we certainly hope you enjoyed today's program. We hope you got something you can't get anywhere else; uninterrupted by annoying commercials, or compromised by commercial interests. The only interest we have at heart is you. You are not the product, our show is the product,
and we hope you enjoyed it as a useful and tasty product.
John C. Dvorak:
Yum.
Adam Curry:
And if so, please consider supporting this program so that we can keep it on the air two days a week, by going to dvorak dot org slash n a, and showing us your support with a donation. And of course, the palindrome, Valentine's Day, is two fourteen. And we look forward to that. Everything in the shownotes at three eight one dot nashownotes, including all the clips,
Adam Curry:
and some PDFs, and the maps and everything. And until Thursday, coming to you from Camp Mofo here in the Drone Star State.
In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
John C. Dvorak:
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I have nothing creative to say, I'm John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry:
It's okay, because we love you that way.
John C. Dvorak:
[quack sound]
Adam Curry:
We'll talk to you again on Sunday, right here on No Agenda.
Jingle:
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